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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:18 PM
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Here is a pretty good article I found. http://www.stevemunden.com/countersteering.html. You can agree with me or be wrong but you don't HAVE to countersteer to turn a bike. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't though.
 
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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:21 PM
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Your right!!
Only time without useing countersteering on two wheelsis parking lot maneuvers or u-turns.
Both are (very slow going).
Other than that, on two wheelsyou're using countersteering whether you know it or not.
Unless you're on abike with a sidecar or a trike, neither usecountersteering.
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You can't counter steer a bagger when you are going 5 mph. Or counter steer to turn a U-EY!
 
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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:22 PM
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He probably does and doesn't know it or doesn't want to admit it.

The one guy above is right. A scooter with turn without your hands - everbody knows that. You can shift weigh by leaning, pressing on a footrest, throwing a leg out.

But there are a lot of riders that don't aggresively use counter-steering (ie. to avoid hazards).

I just think they should be required to learn how (in the DMV test).



 
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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:25 PM
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The other day I was riding on the freeway and there was a guy riding his bike in the inside lane. He wanted to pass the car in front of him so he threw his weight to theright to change lanes. It was an overly exagerated weight shift. He then did the same when he moved back to the inside lane. It looked like he was just throwing his entire upper body into the lane he wanted to move to.
 
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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:26 PM
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Here is a pretty good article I found. http://www.stevemunden.com/countersteering.html. You can agree with me or be wrong but you don't HAVE to countersteer to turn a bike. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't though.
that's still counter steering, it's just weight induced instead of front wheel induced. Front wheel still does the same thing.


 
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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:27 PM
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He probably does and doesn't know it or doesn't want to admit it.

The one guy above is right. A scooter with turn without your hands - everbody knows that. You can shift weigh by leaning, pressing on a footrest, throwing a leg out.

But there are a lot of riders that don't aggresively use counter-steering (ie. to avoid hazards).

I just think they should be required to learn how (in the DMV test).



I agree 100%. People that don't do it are mostly novice riders IMO but if you think about it when you were a kid riding a bycicle you rode around and learned how to turn using your body. A lot of folks adapt that same way of thinking to motorcycle riding. this is definately a safety and performance issue. I just wanted to point out that it CAN be done but lots of things that CAN be done SHOULDN"T be done. [8D]
 
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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:28 PM
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Oh, and definately watch this video. These guys are crazy skilled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBw0yH509lw
 
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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:30 PM
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Counter steering simply gets the bike leaned over quicker by throwing the front wheel in the opposite direction of turn and thus you can corner quicker. A bike turns when you just lean, however, counter steering gives you quicker and more responsive control when initiating the turn. So counter steering is not a requirement to make a bike turn, it just does a better job of getting things going.
 
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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:30 PM
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Here is a pretty good article I found. http://www.stevemunden.com/countersteering.html. You can agree with me or be wrong but you don't HAVE to countersteer to turn a bike. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't though.
that's still counter steering, it's just weight induced instead of front wheel induced. Front wheel still does the same thing.


The difference is body steering versus counter steering. That's why in super bike racing they train on bikes where the steering column is fixed and won't turn, so that they can learn to steer using weight shift where the front wheel DOES NOT TURN. Once they master that they combine it with counter steering to make turns that would make most of us sick to our stomaches.
 
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Old 04-22-2008 | 03:39 PM
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See the following:

http://www.superbikeschool.com/machi...bs-machine.php


 


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