ORIGINAL: Herr Monk

I was just wondering what else in folks lives reminds them of riding a Harley, or at least the relationship has to the more "typical" version of the activity.

There are a few I can think of. For me the biggest other Harley-like ativity I do is telemark? Anyone else do this? It is to downhill skiing as riding a Harley is to Riding a Crotch Rocket. In telemarking, for those of you unfamiliar with telemarking, you ought to check it out: http://telemarktips.com/ . They are both old-school, hardcore and more rewarding because it takes more work to get into and good at. Both Harleys and telemarking are limited in their potential for speed and performance by physics (i.e. an aircooled V-twin and a metal cable for a binding can both only make you go so fast), it takes allot more skill, time and energy to get the performance where you really want it, but when you do it's many many times better and more rewarding than a plastic fantastic imitation. They both tend to have a large population of old guys with ZZ top beards, bear is never far away at the end of a run, and the goal is to get into the wilds away from it all, although every once in a while it's fun to hang in a crowded area and show-up the Aspen/BMW types, on your archaic technology.

Oh, and most importaintly the Chicks live love 'em both...

Any other activities you all engage in that are a result of that same part of your personality, to get away from crowds and the plastic fantastic of modern yuppiedom? I'm always looking for new ways to get places less efficiently

ORIGINAL: faber

Whoa!.....free-heeling is like riding a Harley?

That's an odd comparison.

I don't know a single pinhead who rides a Harley, and I know hundreds. (You obviously do, Herr Monk--first one I've heard of). Most drive 25-year old Subie wagons, with a black lab in the back and some old ice-climbing gear on the seat with crushed wasabi peas on the floor. I ski with quite a few "ridge hippies" and these guys are soooo mellow and real co-op types: granola-crunching, Nalgene-toting, hemp-underwear-sporting, vegan-jerkey-chering, neo-hippies. A few even ride bikes to the mountain/trailhead. I don't know a single one who would ride a motorcycle--harder to haul all your extra Backpacker's Pantry to the food bank for Thanksgiving.

Don't get me wrong. I make fun of everyone, especially myself. I was a collegiate racer who still skis like I think I'm racing and also skis AT (and XC). My backyard fence is made of old skis. I'm another type of ski town stereotype, always complaining about each year's
"freshman class," a man-child always talking about the old days before our hill was "discovered." But pinheads....

I ski with these guys and love sharing my homebrew with them, though I can only take so many 40-minute versions of "Dark Star" on the iPod-plugged stereo on any given day. The only two-wheeled vehicles they have for the most part are twenty-year old mountain bikes with $400 forks, and some PVC tubes for the skis

And your analogy (tele:alpine::HD:sport bikes) I don't think works. I've seen some pinheads shralp pretty hard, and I've seen plenty of (alpine) gapers in shiny new Volkls, or whatever, who can't snowplow out of a lift line, yet buy season passes every year.

Maybe BC skiing vs. park & pipe skiing....?

But if your general observation is on the experience and the rush....I see your point. For the way I ski, and the way I ride, the rush is different. But I love the feel of wind in my face and watching the ground speed by.

Whoever said that thing about stretch pants.....I guess you haven't skied since 1983.