A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
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09-11-2007, 06:46 PM
RE: A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
chi-town harley where i bought my bike has 07's for $1500 off msrp plus a $500 gift card. sounds like it would be worth it to fly to chicago and ride your new scoot home, just my .02
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09-11-2007, 07:05 PM
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RE: A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
Dealers I have been to WILL NOT give you a piece of paper to take out of the store to compare prices. They would fax a copy to a lender - i.e. bank or credit union - but refused to give me a copy of the terms we worked out on a bike. They didn't want me going somewhere else and getting their deal beat.
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09-11-2007, 07:12 PM
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RE: A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
SanRico,
I live in Albq, and went to T-Bird and got a great deal. They were asking 19,500 for that bike you see below. MSRP was 17,700 in that color, I got it for 17,200 with a LOT of stuff thrown in or written up at a reduced cost.(5-700 bucks worth?)
They are decent people,but when they try to screw me, I let them KNOW!
This is how it went:
I show up in late Sept with 4 models in mind. I wanna see them in person, tomake a decision. Sit on 'em, etc.
I decide I want the FXSTC, so I call over the sales guy who I ran off 30 minutes earlier.
We toss some numbers around, and I tell himI'll look at the other dealers and give him a call back. Ileave and call around (Barnetts, Farmington, Santa Fe, etc.) Nobody else had that color at the time, but there were offers down to the 17,200number on other 2-tones. HMMM...
I go back a coupla days later, and tell this guy, "You ain't moved that bike yet, huh?" I knew they were not selling a lot, it had just turned cold outside. He tells me he will match MSRP, so I say run my credit and call me, THEN we will negotiate. Paperwork, then I boogie.
15 minutes later, he calls asking me if I want him to hold the bike for me!!! (NICE ta finally haveGOOD credit again!)
I go down the next day, and we wheel and deal,as I'm telling him I can get the same thing cheaper somewhere else.
I say, "Just call Santa Fe, I ain't lyin'!" Then I drop the price a lil' more with the finance guy on a few things, like alla them "extra" charges, along with a goodie or 2. Got a great interest rate, ta boot!
Yeah, I still paid a lot, but I think I got the best deal I could. Hell, buyin' a new Harley ain't cheap, no matter WHAT!
Bottom line, HAGGLE, and have leverage. (Time of year, good credit, names of sales people at the other dealers, along with their price, and a nice down payment.)
Aw, I didn't mean ta type so much, but I figure it oughta help out some people here! [sm=biker2.gif]
I live in Albq, and went to T-Bird and got a great deal. They were asking 19,500 for that bike you see below. MSRP was 17,700 in that color, I got it for 17,200 with a LOT of stuff thrown in or written up at a reduced cost.(5-700 bucks worth?)
They are decent people,but when they try to screw me, I let them KNOW! This is how it went:
I show up in late Sept with 4 models in mind. I wanna see them in person, tomake a decision. Sit on 'em, etc.
I decide I want the FXSTC, so I call over the sales guy who I ran off 30 minutes earlier.
We toss some numbers around, and I tell himI'll look at the other dealers and give him a call back. Ileave and call around (Barnetts, Farmington, Santa Fe, etc.) Nobody else had that color at the time, but there were offers down to the 17,200number on other 2-tones. HMMM...
I go back a coupla days later, and tell this guy, "You ain't moved that bike yet, huh?" I knew they were not selling a lot, it had just turned cold outside. He tells me he will match MSRP, so I say run my credit and call me, THEN we will negotiate. Paperwork, then I boogie.
15 minutes later, he calls asking me if I want him to hold the bike for me!!! (NICE ta finally haveGOOD credit again!)
I go down the next day, and we wheel and deal,as I'm telling him I can get the same thing cheaper somewhere else.
I say, "Just call Santa Fe, I ain't lyin'!" Then I drop the price a lil' more with the finance guy on a few things, like alla them "extra" charges, along with a goodie or 2. Got a great interest rate, ta boot!
Yeah, I still paid a lot, but I think I got the best deal I could. Hell, buyin' a new Harley ain't cheap, no matter WHAT!
Bottom line, HAGGLE, and have leverage. (Time of year, good credit, names of sales people at the other dealers, along with their price, and a nice down payment.)
Aw, I didn't mean ta type so much, but I figure it oughta help out some people here! [sm=biker2.gif]
#44
09-11-2007, 08:20 PM
RE: A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
You made a HUGE error in negotiations by telling him you were ready to buy. You've left him with no incentive to deal. Now you either need to make a legitimate offer or walk away from the table. You've lost the first round of negotations but may be able to pull it out in the long run. It's going to take some *****, though. Make him an offer and truly be ready to walk away if he doesn't bite.
#45
09-11-2007, 11:35 PM
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RE: A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
SanRico,
Don't know if you are interested, but I was at the Farmington store today and they have an '07 Red/Black RoadKing Standard. I think Mike told me it was 500 under MSRP with no set up or shipping. They had 3 '08 Deluxes on the floor for MSRP.
His number is 505-325-6710.
Bill
Don't know if you are interested, but I was at the Farmington store today and they have an '07 Red/Black RoadKing Standard. I think Mike told me it was 500 under MSRP with no set up or shipping. They had 3 '08 Deluxes on the floor for MSRP.
His number is 505-325-6710.
Bill
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09-11-2007, 11:59 PM
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RE: A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
That is a fancy way of saying "we charge whatever the hell we want for this motorcycle, and you should be happy to pay it."
that's how the capitalistic society works. no one has a gun to yer head.
shop around
#47
09-12-2007, 12:07 AM
RE: A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
ORIGINAL: Tralfaz
In the Dallas area we have about 5 dealers, with 2 owned by one corporation, 2 owned by a family, and one on its own. The family owned dealer sells at MSRP (with discounts when clearing out inventory). The corporate owned sells at above MSRP. The good news is that the corporate owned dealers know the family owned one sells at MSRP, and they know their current deals. They are also close enough such that there is a health spirit of competition, so I just needed to go into the corporate owned dealers, tell them I got a certain out of the door quote from the family owned one, and they matched it, including the $500 store gift card.
In the Dallas area we have about 5 dealers, with 2 owned by one corporation, 2 owned by a family, and one on its own. The family owned dealer sells at MSRP (with discounts when clearing out inventory). The corporate owned sells at above MSRP. The good news is that the corporate owned dealers know the family owned one sells at MSRP, and they know their current deals. They are also close enough such that there is a health spirit of competition, so I just needed to go into the corporate owned dealers, tell them I got a certain out of the door quote from the family owned one, and they matched it, including the $500 store gift card.
#49
09-12-2007, 02:16 AM
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RE: A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
Frankly, I prefer to deal with folks who have a reasonable command of the English language.
Geeez...this Mark C guy needs to spend some time learning a bit of it.
CN
Geeez...this Mark C guy needs to spend some time learning a bit of it.
CN
#50
09-12-2007, 04:26 AM
RE: A typical Exchange with a non-MSRP Harley Dealer...
ORIGINAL: HogBoy
It's called the law of supply and demand.
It's called the law of supply and demand.