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The only thing worse than dying is being afraid to live.
 
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Originally Posted by jamala00
You have to put that into perspective.... What percent of automobile deaths is that per total automobile occupants... vs what percent of deaths is that per total riders or passengers? I'll bet the percent of deaths per rider or passenger far exceeds the car occupants.
I'm sure. With a car you can have 4 or more inside a very safe cage with airbags. On a motorcycle maybe two with very little protection. Most motorcycle fatalities are a single male that's been speeding or is intoxicated.
 
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The only thing worse than dying is being afraid to live.
Get busy living, or get busy dying.
 
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Originally Posted by John Harper
Motorcycle fatalities in the US for 2023: 5,579

Auto fatalities in the US for 2023: 42,514

Gun related fatalities in 2023 in the US: 46,728

Aviation fatalities 2023 in the US: 72

I'll take my chances on a motorcycle. And, I'm also a high school teacher, so we do "active shooter" drills twice a year. Fun times.

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According to the latest motor vehicle crash death count by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), there were 1,502 car occupant deaths and 586 motorcycle rider or passenger deaths in California reported in Ca reported in 2023.
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You can't cite raw numbers for each, they aren't comparable. There are a lot more cars than bikes. You have look at bike deaths per bike compared to car deaths per car, and the per bike death figure would be way higher than the per car death figure.
 
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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle58
Why do you think that is?

In the realm of things that you can be seriously injured or die from, do you think motorcycles have a reputation that they don't deserve?

We've all heard the comments from strangers and people we're close to, but do you think their thoughts carry any weight, or are they not looking at the big picture?
Motorcycle is just a thing like a car, a gun or a washing machine, by itself it's completely harmless and does nothing but sit there. People on them on the other hand are when things can get dangerous. Things were much better back when Joe Q Public was afraid of us in general, they were watching out for you, rolling windows and slapping that door lock if you were anywhere near, you got hurt it was usually dumb *** on your part in some way. Today, public in general see's you as a nuisance if they bother seeing you at all and far to many riders are enforcing that perception acting a fool or have no business anywhere near two wheels much less out the streets on one.
 
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Besides the airbags, They have also nannied the living crap out of cars, a lot of it is good, makes some accidents caused by mistakes survivable when they never where before,
Bikes will never get there, because they just can’t get there without making it car like.
 
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Old Today | 08:32 PM
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ANY activity even within the home (stairs/adders/firearms) can have the potential for injury or death as well as those outside of the home.

While more people are injured and killed in a vehicles vs on a motorcycle but on a "per mile" basis far more people are either injured or killed on motorcycles so that's where good judgement, common sense and defensive riding techniques come into play in avoiding any accident.

Ain't no secret that speed, alcohol/drugs, inattention in addition to weather and road conditions play a huge part in motorcycle accidents.
Another consideration for those of us who live or travel in rural areas is wildlife (specifically deer) near the dusk and/or dawn hours.
I gave up on riding during those hours many years ago and I only do it now when I must.

With ANY activity, doing it as wisely and as safely as possible can reduce (but not prevent) an accident but IF you do have a motorcycle accident the two main factors that can possibly prevent injury or death is the use of protective gear and lowering your speed.
 
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I work every single day around explosives and extreme pressures, the danger of my motorcycle doesnt have squat on the potential dangers i deal with every single day i work. One wrong move on my part, and me and the guys i work with can be seriously injured for life or dead. Riding a motorcycle a few thousand miles a year is probably the safest thing i do.
 
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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle58
Motorcycles get a bad rap for being more dangerous than anything else.
Why do you think that is?
don't know about more dangerous than "anything" else.
But being out in the open at high speeds surrounded by 3000+ pound moving objects piloted by clueless mooks oblivious to the world around them certainly increases the "risk" of serious bodily harm
couple that with deer and thrill seekers pushing the envelope, I'd say they deserve an elevated risk factor for serious peril compared to boating or bowling

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It’s not so much the motorcycle, as it is the rider.
 


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