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Old 08-05-2024 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by eighteight
Please don`t absent yourself completely, I always enjoyed your well written ( and reasoned) posts on a variety of subjects.

Enjoy your new bike
Thank you. I would like to stick around. I enjoy many of the off-topic threads and it's interesting to hear opinions from your side of the pond on issues that effect both of us. Increasingly I feel more commonality with ordinary Americans than I do with my own fractured country.
And I'm not down of the Harley brand. I love em. I wouldn't own the Rocket if I hadn't been a Harley owner previously.
I've bought a shed load of lotto tickets this week. If my numbers come up there'll be a stage 4 RKS ordered, in black, before the cheque clears, and probably a green card application going in so I can get the bloody parts without involving Boeing and import taxes....
 
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Old 08-05-2024 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by WearyOne
I think you can do the 240hp kit for around 5K USD give or take if you do your own install. I really want one.

But I am content with the 220hp that my Ducati has for when I get the speed bug, I just think it would be hilarious to have a rocket setup for track use with a blower.
I very much doubt if I'll ever go that far, though I will fit a decat exhaust and have it custom mapped to restore a 1:1 throttle and make it the bike Triumph would have built if the politicians would have let them, just as I was planning to do with my Harley.
I sold a KTM 1290 Superduke to buy the LRS and I still own a proddy race-tuned Ducati 1098 Streetfighter and a KTM 1190, so I definitely have the speed demon gene as well. I've never been attracted to track riding - though I'd like to track the Ducati, if ever tightening UK noise restrictions hadn't placed it out of bounds - but I am a fast road rider and I love ragging my tyres and turning them blue. But it's getting increasingly hard to do that on UK roads and I bought the Harley to provide a contrast to that tendency and add another dimension to my biking life that was missing. I wanted a bike that would let me enjoy where I was riding as much as what I was riding. The Harley did that in spades. It was just my back issue that killed the dream.
For me, the only close alternative to a properly sorted Harley was a Rocket 3 GT. It's a stage 4 big inch Harley out of the crate in a slightly different flavour, but about 8 grand cheaper and without the low seat softail ergos that my ruined body can't deal with. But I still want some Milwaukee iron in the garage. When I've got the Rocket fettled and replenished the finances a 1200 Sportster project bike is next on the list.
 
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Old 08-05-2024 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gimlet
That's it in a nutshell. I was riding the Triumph yesterday and encountered some really sudden dips in the road. I saw them coming and was able to take my weight off the seat with my legs and by pulling on the bars. I couldn't do that on the LRS. If I'd hit them on that I'd have been crippled.
The Rocket has a conventional rear sub-frame. The seat is higher and your knees lower, the forwards are less "forward" (and can be moved further back) and the bars are closer. A softail by it's nature will always have a low seat height and there's little you can do about it if you've got a problem like mine. A Dyna or twin shock bagger would have worked for me, but I don't want a full-dress bagger. The RKS would be perfect but I can't afford one.
I did ride the Rocket over to my local HD dealership on Friday to try a few Harleys for size straight after getting off the Rocket to make sure I hadn't made a mistake. All of them except the RKS gave me the warning signal when I sat of them. The RKS's seat was way more comfortable than the Rocket's, but a used RKS costs about the same as a new Rocket. One day maybe.
A used Road King police bike could be made into what you want, with the right ergo's, but they're probably nonexistent over there.
If I was serious about buying a new Harley right now, a police Road King is what I would look for.
 
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Old 08-05-2024 | 10:09 PM
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I did ride the Rocket over to my local HD dealership on Friday to try a few Harleys for size straight after getting off the Rocket to make sure I hadn't made a mistake.
No one buys a new motorcycles, and then thinks what can I do to make myself think it was a mistake. Sure
 
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Old 08-06-2024 | 01:46 AM
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A used Road King police bike could be made into what you want, with the right ergo's, but they're probably nonexistent over there.
If I was serious about buying a new Harley right now, a police Road King is what I would look for.
Someone else told me that - at the dealership, funnily enough. But I've never seen on over here.
 
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Old 08-06-2024 | 09:53 AM
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Never a fan of low seat and forward controls.
When sitting in one, they immediately feel very comfortable.
The problem, for me, is that is "The Position"....Period.
Quickly becomes restrictive and confining.
You cannot even stand for a second to fart, or air-out the bottom end.
 
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Old 08-06-2024 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Gimlet
I've had this back issue for decades and I've got to know exactly what sets it off. [b]The real problem is seat height and the degree of bend in my hips. [.b] I'm the same with car seats and armchairs in the house. If I sit too low with my hips too bent, at some point I'm going to be in deep trouble.
The mids on the LRS make this worse but even with forwards I've got too much bend in my hips. I did fit a Tallboy seat (in fact I ordered one when I bought the bike, just in case). And I rolled the bars back to bring them nearer. Both these things helped a lot but they can't eliminate that tight hip angle.

The Triumph has a higher seat height. You're much more on the bike than in it and my thighs are level or even angled downwards. The forwards aren't as far forward as most Harleys either and they're adjustable by two inches fore and aft. It's taller and you're not sitting as stretched out as a Harley and unfortunately my back dictates the seat posture.

The Triumph's suspension is pretty stiff - most Triumphs are. I can sure feel the bumps but the sitting position means they're not being transferred into my spine the way they were on the LRS. That's the difference.
For me, back hips and knee issues resolved while riding this 2019 FLHTP with the police seat. I am 3 inches taller in the saddle, and have a comfortable position for 500+ miles days again.
 
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Old 08-06-2024 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Goose_NC
For me, back hips and knee issues resolved while riding this 2019 FLHTP with the police seat. I am 3 inches taller in the saddle, and have a comfortable position for 500+ miles days again.
Remember how they made a "Low" version of some touring models for a few years? I always wished they'd make a "High" version for us taller folk. But they were probably afraid of losing the signature Harley "slammed" look.
 
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Old 08-06-2024 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gimlet
I very much doubt if I'll ever go that far, though I will fit a decat exhaust and have it custom mapped to restore a 1:1 throttle and make it the bike Triumph would have built if the politicians would have let them, just as I was planning to do with my Harley.
I sold a KTM 1290 Superduke to buy the LRS and I still own a proddy race-tuned Ducati 1098 Streetfighter and a KTM 1190, so I definitely have the speed demon gene as well. I've never been attracted to track riding - though I'd like to track the Ducati, if ever tightening UK noise restrictions hadn't placed it out of bounds - but I am a fast road rider and I love ragging my tyres and turning them blue. But it's getting increasingly hard to do that on UK roads and I bought the Harley to provide a contrast to that tendency and add another dimension to my biking life that was missing. I wanted a bike that would let me enjoy where I was riding as much as what I was riding. The Harley did that in spades. It was just my back issue that killed the dream.
For me, the only close alternative to a properly sorted Harley was a Rocket 3 GT. It's a stage 4 big inch Harley out of the crate in a slightly different flavour, but about 8 grand cheaper and without the low seat softail ergos that my ruined body can't deal with. But I still want some Milwaukee iron in the garage. When I've got the Rocket fettled and replenished the finances a 1200 Sportster project bike is next on the list.
I think you and I have similar tastes. I have a KTM SMCR690 and a V4SP streetfighter. I totally understand the physical issues. I downgraded from a street glide to my FatBoy. I am so much lower to the ground and I can put both feet down at a light easily which is hard with my busted ankles.

I just have a tendency to like to screw around with my bikes and make them faster.
 
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Old 08-06-2024 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gimlet
That was the old Rocket III. Completely different bike. For the gen 2 they pretty much redesigned it from the ground up with a new engine. They saved 80 kg in weight and added about 40% more power and torque.
I did one last year, pretty cool bike

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/detai...ph-rocket.html

OP, grats on the new ride
 
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