A modern resistive view of Harley perfomance
#101
To be fair, I'm looking at a Versys650 right now as a 2nd bike to have as my purely solo riding bike, track, and dirt... and my Harley would absolutely be the fast bike between the two even though the new versys has a Ninja sport bike aesthetic re-design.
My Fat Boy absolutely hauls *** and it's that "Dragula" kind of fast feeling. Even though it's not done yet. I can STILL pull sub 4 second zero to 60 on an unprepared surface with next to no real practice.
Undoutably if I wanted to ride a bike for speed purposes, it'd be harley over the versys650 because while the versys has plenty of lean angle and design to handle a track. It's never going to be close to my Fat Boy in terms of actual SPEED that my fat boy can handle right now.
My bike with it's suspension is smooth at 120mph down the freeway, Versys650 cant even dream of reaching 120.
OFC it's nothing like a 1000RR, but that RR cant be seat swapped for 2 up comfortable riding for 2 people for thousands of miles.
Just because it's "slow" compared to an RR, it doesnt mean it's universally slow, and that performance choices on a Harley isn't a meaningless task.
Also that's not how bias works. This is why people who say "but I have a black friend" are missing the point. You can easily own something and still be against it or dislike it.
Like, I own 3 different xbox one controllers, and I dislike them compared to a PS4 controller. But xbox ones just plug into my PC and work so... I deal with it.
My Fat Boy absolutely hauls *** and it's that "Dragula" kind of fast feeling. Even though it's not done yet. I can STILL pull sub 4 second zero to 60 on an unprepared surface with next to no real practice.
Undoutably if I wanted to ride a bike for speed purposes, it'd be harley over the versys650 because while the versys has plenty of lean angle and design to handle a track. It's never going to be close to my Fat Boy in terms of actual SPEED that my fat boy can handle right now.
My bike with it's suspension is smooth at 120mph down the freeway, Versys650 cant even dream of reaching 120.
OFC it's nothing like a 1000RR, but that RR cant be seat swapped for 2 up comfortable riding for 2 people for thousands of miles.
Just because it's "slow" compared to an RR, it doesnt mean it's universally slow, and that performance choices on a Harley isn't a meaningless task.
Also that's not how bias works. This is why people who say "but I have a black friend" are missing the point. You can easily own something and still be against it or dislike it.
Like, I own 3 different xbox one controllers, and I dislike them compared to a PS4 controller. But xbox ones just plug into my PC and work so... I deal with it.
Riding thousands of miles 2up, is that what you do on your softail? Your boyfriend on the back? Send a pic please lol. Sport bikes come with a token backpack seat but I've never and will never have a passenger on one, it's just not meant for that but I guess it helps sales for the few that want that option.
If I was travelling thousands of miles I wouldn't chose either of the bikes you mentioned nor would I chose a sport bike or even my WideGlide, I would chose an Electra-Glide and be more comfortable, that's what it's designed for. A Fatboy is a straight line bar hopper bike, more suited to quarter mile than the softail springer, both majorly compromised when a bend in the road presents itself.
I was looking up the Rocket 3R yesterday because they interest me (hate the rear fender / plate holder) and it lead me to a thread from 2023 where a guy is trying to get into the 9's with his, he was at 10.4 last he posted but planned to strap the forks down to help his launch. Pretty impressive and a 176MPH top end I believe.
I think the first post set the tone for a thread that could only go down from there.
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Uncle Larry (08-07-2024)
#102
I'm no longer with him but we are still very good friends.
Now days I do the same with my gf.
I regularly pick her up and drop her off at her place since she works so far away. We've done at least 2000miles this year just commuting alone.
And it's honestly no problem. The Saddlemen Explorer RS seat I have is quite comfy for both of us. The SE Ohlins rear shock rides SO SMOOTHLY.
We got extra power over a bagger since my bike weighs a good chunk less than a loaded bagger.
But you also have to remember I dont just keep my bike in Touring mode. I have a different seat and some things I pull off the bike and strip it down to make it light, and easy to move my body around on, so I can go rip and tear corners. I'm mildly known around the motorcycle community here for being the girl who tears up the shoulder tread of her tires before the center... on a Harley. Which people think is bonkers.
It takes less than 5 minutes to swap stuff and put the bike in tour mode or race mode.
At the end of the day, my bike can both be a comfy touring bike, and a speed demon.
Pic1: My exBF giving me a thumbs up for the pic(taken 2023)
Pic2: My Gf and I camping on the river during a heat wave.
Pic3: My bike in Race Mode (minus the peg relocators, those aren't supposed to be on the bike in Race Mode)
Last edited by FranBunnyFFXII; 08-07-2024 at 12:12 AM.
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Rains2much (08-07-2024)
#103
#104
People here need go talk with men. Its not a debate with 90 second timer, and getting dinged when off topic. To me forums are a virtual conversation in a big room. You can also step out of this conversation, and walk over to another group if you choose.
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foxtrapper (08-07-2024)
#105
Yeap actually I do. I put 1200miles in one summer on my Fat Boy with my exBF on the back. He's not a rider himself and I dont own a car, so Bike adventures are what we did that summer.
I'm no longer with him but we are still very good friends.
Now days I do the same with my gf.
I regularly pick her up and drop her off at her place since she works so far away. We've done at least 2000miles this year just commuting alone.
And it's honestly no problem. The Saddlemen Explorer RS seat I have is quite comfy for both of us. The SE Ohlins rear shock rides SO SMOOTHLY.
We got extra power over a bagger since my bike weighs a good chunk less than a loaded bagger.
But you also have to remember I dont just keep my bike in Touring mode. I have a different seat and some things I pull off the bike and strip it down to make it light, and easy to move my body around on, so I can go rip and tear corners. I'm mildly known around the motorcycle community here for being the girl who tears up the shoulder tread of her tires before the center... on a Harley. Which people think is bonkers.
It takes less than 5 minutes to swap stuff and put the bike in tour mode or race mode.
At the end of the day, my bike can both be a comfy touring bike, and a speed demon.
Pic1: My exBF giving me a thumbs up for the pic(taken 2023)
Pic2: My Gf and I camping on the river during a heat wave.
Pic3: My bike in Race Mode (minus the peg relocators, those aren't supposed to be on the bike in Race Mode)
I'm no longer with him but we are still very good friends.
Now days I do the same with my gf.
I regularly pick her up and drop her off at her place since she works so far away. We've done at least 2000miles this year just commuting alone.
And it's honestly no problem. The Saddlemen Explorer RS seat I have is quite comfy for both of us. The SE Ohlins rear shock rides SO SMOOTHLY.
We got extra power over a bagger since my bike weighs a good chunk less than a loaded bagger.
But you also have to remember I dont just keep my bike in Touring mode. I have a different seat and some things I pull off the bike and strip it down to make it light, and easy to move my body around on, so I can go rip and tear corners. I'm mildly known around the motorcycle community here for being the girl who tears up the shoulder tread of her tires before the center... on a Harley. Which people think is bonkers.
It takes less than 5 minutes to swap stuff and put the bike in tour mode or race mode.
At the end of the day, my bike can both be a comfy touring bike, and a speed demon.
Pic1: My exBF giving me a thumbs up for the pic(taken 2023)
Pic2: My Gf and I camping on the river during a heat wave.
Pic3: My bike in Race Mode (minus the peg relocators, those aren't supposed to be on the bike in Race Mode)
Last edited by Rains2much; 08-07-2024 at 08:01 AM.
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FranBunnyFFXII (08-07-2024)
#106
It's called Resurgence Paint, and yeah its quite an interesting paint job. It gave my bike a theme to work with.
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Rains2much (08-07-2024)
#107
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Hathaway (08-07-2024)
#109
Harley's, since the EVO days, can easily do 100,000 miles with just routine maintenance.
#110