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Old 03-21-2023, 10:41 AM
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I found myself the other day seriously looking through Indians' lineup for the first time. Got to admit, they have some pretty cool looking bikes.
And similarly expensive. So I guess Elon Musk is running Indian too?




 
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Originally Posted by aecs
If Elon Musk was in charge HD would be getting millions in taxpayer dollars to prop it up and we would be getting huge tax rebates for buying a gas saving vehicle. Musk has made hundreds of millions of dollars from taxpayers propping up a car company that sold a very expensive product that few wanted to buy.
That statement is funny as hell considering this plant alone is pumping out 500,000 plus a year and we can't build them fast enough and there's 4 other plants world wide with more coming.

Somebody is buying them


Oh and while you're slinging mud make mention of how much taxpayer money the government has dumped into GM, Ford and several other EV players so the can play catch up with Tesla and not let Elon dominate the Market, or is the hate just directed at Musk only?
 

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And similarly expensive. So I guess Elon Musk is running Indian too?

those side covers remind me of a scooter
 
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Originally Posted by Keithhu
And similarly expensive. So I guess Elon Musk is running Indian too?

Man, those things were $30k ten years ago. My neighbor bought one at the time and I thought they were stupid expensive. HD said, "People are paying that much for those things? Hold my beer..."
 

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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
That statement is funny as hell considering this plant alone is pumping out 500,000 plus a year and we can't build them fast enough and there's 4 other plants world wide with more coming.

Somebody is buying them


Oh and while you're slinging mud make mention of how much taxpayer money the government has dumped into GM, Ford and several other EV players so the can play catch up with Tesla and not let Elon dominate the Market, or is the hate just directed at Musk only?
Amen, two thumbs up 👍👍
 
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Amen, two thumbs up 👍👍
Out of curiosity I checked the global production numbers for 2022, 1.37 million cars produced and everyone of them was sold not sitting on a dealers lot and there's a new plant going in down in Mexico this year. And I miss quoted, there's 6 factories but only 5 making cars, the other is strictly batteries and the Power Wall home storage systems.

GM just got $ 2.5 billion, Ford got $1.3 billion from the feds in subsidies to make EV's, the usual haters always seem to leave these little facts out when the trash talk starts. We won't even get into what the states are giving them to come play in their sandbox.
 
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
That statement is funny as hell considering this plant alone is pumping out 500,000 plus a year and we can't build them fast enough and there's 4 other plants world wide with more coming.

Somebody is buying them


Oh and while you're slinging mud make mention of how much taxpayer money the government has dumped into GM, Ford and several other EV players so the can play catch up with Tesla and not let Elon dominate the Market, or is the hate just directed at Musk only?
Tax payers paid for the R&D and kept Tesla open for years before it became a viable manufacturer
 
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Tax payers paid for the R&D and kept Tesla open for years before it became a viable manufacturer
Still ignoring the others the Feds are still throwing money at, don't have the exact figures but it was a several rounds of venture capital the paid the bulk of Tesla's startup funding. Was not all fed money as you seem to think and it was less than Ford and GM are currently getting yearly.
 
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never said i was a Ford or GM fanboy either, The market should decide which companies succeed or fail. The Government and their green mafia should let the market decide who makes it and who fails. I am aware of the states giving him great fellatio as well, was stationed Fallon NV when all that went down years ago.

Total of 2.5 BILLIION worth, far more than others

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Originally Posted by aecs
never said i was a Ford or GM fanboy either, The market should decide which companies succeed or fail. The Government and their green mafia should let the market decide who makes it and who fails. I am aware of the states giving him great fellatio as well, was stationed Fallon NV when all that went down years ago.

Total of 2.5 BILLIION worth, far more than others

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So Tesla's totals are what GM got last year alone and they are still the big bad government money tit hanger on, ok I understand. I'd say the market is deciding, gov's still throwing serious cash at GM and Ford while Tesla can't build the damned things fast enough.
 


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