Shifting without the clutch
#11
![Default](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Take a look at some blow-up charts of Harley gears/shafts and then those on cars/trucks,and even MotoX bikes.
The largest factor is what speeds up the gear so it will mesh.
On MotoX bikes you have thrust washers, obviously they do a great job in speeding the gear/shaft up.
On cars/trucks some gearsmesh at speed without the clutch, but not all.
If you look at the splines on those shafts you'll find idlers that help mesh the landing gears.
The largest factor is what speeds up the gear so it will mesh.
On MotoX bikes you have thrust washers, obviously they do a great job in speeding the gear/shaft up.
On cars/trucks some gearsmesh at speed without the clutch, but not all.
If you look at the splines on those shafts you'll find idlers that help mesh the landing gears.
#12
![Default](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
ORIGINAL: TXSwede
I usta do it alla time with my old ironhead Sporty, and I mean ALLA time. Mostly upshifting, I just thought it sounded cooler without that annoying fraction of a second lapse it took to squeeze the clutch lever.....let it back out.........then throttle back. All you had to to was let off the throttle for a nano second kick her up and rev on! This was 20 years ago, though. The only time I have done it on my Dyna was by mistake! Brought back memories tho!
I usta do it alla time with my old ironhead Sporty, and I mean ALLA time. Mostly upshifting, I just thought it sounded cooler without that annoying fraction of a second lapse it took to squeeze the clutch lever.....let it back out.........then throttle back. All you had to to was let off the throttle for a nano second kick her up and rev on! This was 20 years ago, though. The only time I have done it on my Dyna was by mistake! Brought back memories tho!
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
street racer 1960s style
#13
![Default](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
...Hey Bear, I raced a 1970 XLCH, bracket class NHRA, during the 70's, man...those days were fun. ![Wink](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
(Remember those oil catches NHRA made us put on the front of the engines? HeHe, 2 funny now...)
![Wink](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
(Remember those oil catches NHRA made us put on the front of the engines? HeHe, 2 funny now...)
#15
![Default](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I usually just give the clutch a little bit of pull to release pressure on the gear teeth so they will slide. I don't hear or sense anything getting chipped in the process.
#16
![Default](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
ORIGINAL: MOSTWANTED
actually in a truck transmision it cuts down on wear and tear on the clutch. Just got to do it without grinding the gears.
edit: Bear64 beat me to the idea.
actually in a truck transmision it cuts down on wear and tear on the clutch. Just got to do it without grinding the gears.
edit: Bear64 beat me to the idea.
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, and im no rocket scientist but im sure a few of them have had some input on this over the years. Theres probably a reason that all these vehicles have clutches on them.....Dontchatink?
#17
![Default](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I have with most of my vehicles. With my dirt bikes, I don't think I ever used it except to start and stop. And when I was driving Semi's same thing. It's just a matter of shifting when there is no load on the drivetrain.
#18
![Default](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
ORIGINAL: Unamed
Of course it cuts down wear on the clutch! your not useing it!!!! Sheesh!![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, and im no rocket scientist but im sure a few of them have had some input on this over the years. Theres probably a reason that all these vehicles have clutches on them.....Dontchatink?
ORIGINAL: MOSTWANTED
actually in a truck transmision it cuts down on wear and tear on the clutch. Just got to do it without grinding the gears.
edit: Bear64 beat me to the idea.
actually in a truck transmision it cuts down on wear and tear on the clutch. Just got to do it without grinding the gears.
edit: Bear64 beat me to the idea.
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, and im no rocket scientist but im sure a few of them have had some input on this over the years. Theres probably a reason that all these vehicles have clutches on them.....Dontchatink?
#19
![Default](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
ORIGINAL: Unamed
Of course it cuts down wear on the clutch! your not useing it!!!! Sheesh!![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, and im no rocket scientist but im sure a few of them have had some input on this over the years. Theres probably a reason that all these vehicles have clutches on them.....Dontchatink?
ORIGINAL: MOSTWANTED
actually in a truck transmision it cuts down on wear and tear on the clutch. Just got to do it without grinding the gears.
edit: Bear64 beat me to the idea.
actually in a truck transmision it cuts down on wear and tear on the clutch. Just got to do it without grinding the gears.
edit: Bear64 beat me to the idea.
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, and im no rocket scientist but im sure a few of them have had some input on this over the years. Theres probably a reason that all these vehicles have clutches on them.....Dontchatink?
![EEK!](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
[IMG]local://upfiles/3092/CFDFE4D800AF4670BDA5BF595B28D6C6.jpg[/IMG]
#20
![Default](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
ORIGINAL: Bear64
your so right, but then its like living in the fast lane, or riding 20,000 miles a year?? Can I really do that? but then there are those that do neither--Dontchathink??![EEK!](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
[IMG]local://upfiles/3092/CFDFE4D800AF4670BDA5BF595B28D6C6.jpg[/IMG]
ORIGINAL: Unamed
Of course it cuts down wear on the clutch! your not useing it!!!! Sheesh!![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, and im no rocket scientist but im sure a few of them have had some input on this over the years. Theres probably a reason that all these vehicles have clutches on them.....Dontchatink?
ORIGINAL: MOSTWANTED
actually in a truck transmision it cuts down on wear and tear on the clutch. Just got to do it without grinding the gears.
edit: Bear64 beat me to the idea.
actually in a truck transmision it cuts down on wear and tear on the clutch. Just got to do it without grinding the gears.
edit: Bear64 beat me to the idea.
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Personally, and im no rocket scientist but im sure a few of them have had some input on this over the years. Theres probably a reason that all these vehicles have clutches on them.....Dontchatink?
![EEK!](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
[IMG]local://upfiles/3092/CFDFE4D800AF4670BDA5BF595B28D6C6.jpg[/IMG]
![Wink](https://www.hdforums.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
And you spelled dontchatink wrong, theres no H its "tink" comon man where have you been???