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Old 03-23-2021, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by roussfam
AGM only for my bikes
That's what my bike calls for so that's what it gets. My power tools use lithium so I use the charger they came with, no fires and no problems.
 
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Old 03-24-2021, 08:19 PM
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LOL I doubt I will ever see as many Lithium batteries explode as I have lead acid batteries. News flash: hydrogen goes boom! I have touched off a few myself over a 20 year wrenching career, and seen many more running shops and managing techs.

You can't fix stupid. We have had more than one customer hook a lithium battery to a standard charger.

The price of lithium batteries is retarded. The cranking power is awesome! I have one. I like the hell out of it, so far. If my bike bursts into flames, I will post pics.
 
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Old 03-24-2021, 10:05 PM
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Most lithium batteries have a built in circuit that I’m guessin facilitates charging on the bike. The lithium chargers have a cell balancing mode which keeps the batteries properly charged. I believe the de-sulfating phase of a std battery tender is what damages the lithium batteries,iirc. I’ve got a Twin Power Lithium and an Optimate 4s 5 Amp charger for 5 years next month. When the bike sits for extended periods, I throw the charger on just about every 2-3 weeks. I never have left a tender or li charger plugged in more than 24 hours at a clip, but that’s just me.
 
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Originally Posted by bklynbob
Most lithium batteries have a built in circuit that I’m guessin facilitates charging on the bike. The lithium chargers have a cell balancing mode which keeps the batteries properly charged. I believe the de-sulfating phase of a std battery tender is what damages the lithium batteries,iirc. I’ve got a Twin Power Lithium and an Optimate 4s 5 Amp charger for 5 years next month. When the bike sits for extended periods, I throw the charger on just about every 2-3 weeks. I never have left a tender or li charger plugged in more than 24 hours at a clip, but that’s just me.
The de-sulphating process in most lead-acid battery chargers is typically a pulsed DC or offset AC waveform. That should be easily detected by the charging and cell balancing electronics built into the battery.
 
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for the price lithium batteries should come with a charging device.
 
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Originally Posted by 02fx4dude
That should be easily detected by the charging and cell balancing electronics built into the battery.
You are making a big assumption that there is a BSM capable of catching it.

From decades of professional experience, most uncertified battery do not have adequate protection circuits. To complicate matters even further:

Most batteries certified to international IEC standards would not meet US ANSI requirements.
 
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Originally Posted by Falco144
You are making a big assumption that there is a BSM capable of catching it.

From decades of professional experience, most uncertified battery do not have adequate protection circuits. To complicate matters even further:

Most batteries certified to international IEC standards would not meet US ANSI requirements.

I wasn't assuming anything in that post, except the possibility that a typical desulphating waveform would be detrimental to the safe charging of lithium batteries.
 
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Originally Posted by 02fx4dude
I wasn't assuming anything in that post, except the possibility that a typical desulphating waveform would be detrimental to the safe charging of lithium batteries.
I should have been more careful when quoting. My comments was a general comments and not directed at you, bit rather to the general public.
I am sorry for the confusion.
 
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Usually a stock battery lasts me 5 years +. I live in Calif and ride all year long, if I'm going to be off my bike longer than 2 weeks it goes on a battery charger. Screw that new fangled lithium stuff.
 
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batteries and tires, the bane of a biker's existence...
 


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