Harley Davidson Pan America -final form
#391
I think that most buyers of an Adventure bike will never really take the bike off road beyond the occasional trip down a gravel or fire road. Based on what I read, those who do really take off-road trips like some here are the exception rather than the rule. I think part of the attraction is knowing you can do so rather than really planning on doing so.
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I used to occasionally drive the autobahn. Of course that was in '74 and in a '54 VW beetle. Lol. Believe me I STAYED in the right lane. Even then I got flashed at. I was like, what? There are no more lanes. If that road is kept up like CA freeways, I wouldn't feel safe over 85 anyway. Nothing like a nice 2" high transition when going over an over pass. There's one near me on hey 101 that will literally lift me off my seat on my Ultra, if I am doing over 60.
Sorry, back to the PA.
Sorry, back to the PA.
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several reasons... one is that the Commercial driving school industry in BC is going to have a huge change made in it mid 2021... also, I am changing around our Car division significantly... I am hiring new staff to accommodate the changes and what I think will be a pretty big uptick in our intake right across the board... so I need to keep my eyes on the prize at the office... I also think that the border will NOT open up until the 'Rona is under control in both the US and in Canada... the needle starts to roll out in Jan... but it will take all of the winter, spring, and summer to get it into wide circulation... and a closed border means I wont be heading south... and If I do get to get away, Newfoundland is looking good, and what better for that road trip than Darla... another one is that my daughters mother is not doing well with her Cancer, so I am not even sure how much motorcycling I will get in next year... I will keep the PanAm on the back burner, but have already booked some work on the eGlide for Feb... exhaust, cams and a tuner... I will get my local guy to do the work... I have started a thread over in the M8 section that i will run during the event... that should be "some fun for '21"... I need the diversion from work.
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nevada72 (12-05-2020)
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Same I see here in Abu Dhabi often, people buy big offroad trucks pretending they are going for dune bashing, and... never leave a highway
#399
I've owned big Adventure bikes and Harleys for the last 20 years (polycyclinder Japanese bikes for the last 30). Big adventure bikes are really just touring bikes with good suspension travel for crappy roads, can haul big loads, and cover big miles. They really suck on loose stuff, gravel, and sand because of their weight. It is really a hard challenge to make a do it all adventure bike.
Big weight for the highway
Low weight for the trails
Tubeless for the highway
Tubes for the trails
Multi cylinder for the highway
Single cylinder for the trails
6-7 gallons of fuel for the highway
2-3 gallons of fuel for the trails
Shaft drive for the highway
Chain for the trails
.....
It's almost impossible to find the right compromise. I currently have (in addition to my Road King) a ST1100 Tenere Yamaha and I'm about to buy a 700cc Tenere. 3 bikes to cover my needs and that's a low number for me (I'm usually around 6 but I've been has high as 12).
Seeing knobbies and a chain on the bike makes me wonder if Harley knows how it will be used? 2000 miles on the highway and those knobbies will be gone.
I hope they do well on the Pan-America but it's hard to beat a 1200cc Tenere for what it is but Yamaha will doesn't have the cachet of HD or BMW.
Big weight for the highway
Low weight for the trails
Tubeless for the highway
Tubes for the trails
Multi cylinder for the highway
Single cylinder for the trails
6-7 gallons of fuel for the highway
2-3 gallons of fuel for the trails
Shaft drive for the highway
Chain for the trails
.....
It's almost impossible to find the right compromise. I currently have (in addition to my Road King) a ST1100 Tenere Yamaha and I'm about to buy a 700cc Tenere. 3 bikes to cover my needs and that's a low number for me (I'm usually around 6 but I've been has high as 12).
Seeing knobbies and a chain on the bike makes me wonder if Harley knows how it will be used? 2000 miles on the highway and those knobbies will be gone.
I hope they do well on the Pan-America but it's hard to beat a 1200cc Tenere for what it is but Yamaha will doesn't have the cachet of HD or BMW.
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#400
I bought my jeep… So I don’t need to buy a snow shovel. I doubt I have 20 miles even on dirt roads on it... I haven’t owned a 2 Wheel Drive vehicle in the last 18 years.
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