How do I get the dealers to "Compete" on the price of a bike?
#31
09-29-2020, 10:02 AM
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First of all Thank you for your service. What is the nature of your disability that you can ride a bike but not work? You may say its none of my business but your disability comes from the taxes all of us that are working pay in. So some of that money you are spending is mine and I would like to know why I am buying you a motorcycle. In my area this disability thing is out of hand. A friend of mine is on disability from the VA he is 66 years old was a farmer most of his life and did very well for himself. He didn't pay in to social security so when he was ready to retire he went for disability. He drives a $70000 diesel pickup, has a new mustang, has a 66 mustang that is being restored and just bought a model a. He has 300 acres of grapes that he leases out and doesn't pay property tax because he is a disabled vet. He is not disabled. He worked hard his whole life. Now he is receiving $3600 per month in (reparations) because he spent 2 years washing airplanes in Vietnam. I don't mind taking care of the vets that need help but there are too many like my friend. How about the guy living under the bridge that is to proud to ask for help? Lets rent him an apartment instead of buying toys for people that are probably capable of taking care of themselves. I'm sorry but this disability stuff is pissing me off. If your capable of riding a motorcycle you are capable of working some kind of job to pay for it.
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#32
09-29-2020, 10:39 AM
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First of all Thank you for your service. What is the nature of your disability that you can ride a bike but not work? You may say its none of my business but your disability comes from the taxes all of us that are working pay in. So some of that money you are spending is mine and I would like to know why I am buying you a motorcycle. In my area this disability thing is out of hand. A friend of mine is on disability from the VA he is 66 years old was a farmer most of his life and did very well for himself. He didn't pay in to social security so when he was ready to retire he went for disability. He drives a $70000 diesel pickup, has a new mustang, has a 66 mustang that is being restored and just bought a model a. He has 300 acres of grapes that he leases out and doesn't pay property tax because he is a disabled vet. He is not disabled. He worked hard his whole life. Now he is receiving $3600 per month in (reparations) because he spent 2 years washing airplanes in Vietnam. I don't mind taking care of the vets that need help but there are too many like my friend. How about the guy living under the bridge that is to proud to ask for help? Lets rent him an apartment instead of buying toys for people that are probably capable of taking care of themselves. I'm sorry but this disability stuff is pissing me off. If your capable of riding a motorcycle you are capable of working some kind of job to pay for it.
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#33
09-29-2020, 10:54 AM
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An honest question: You say the government wants some sort of itemized list or price quote or something like that, right?
Is there any followup on that? Meaning, you tell them you're going to buy something specific, and include a specific price from the dealer, and the money gets released. And then what? Do you at some point have to go back to the government and certify that you actually spent the money on the thing you said you were going to buy?
I know nothing about this process, but the way this has been described sounds strange to me. If you've been awarded a settlement based on damages/injury/disability, it seems like that should stand alone. I don't get the idea that you need to justify the money based on what you expect to spend it on.
Maybe I'm reading you all wrong, but my "spider sense" tells me something doesn't seem right.
I'd encourage you to contact someone (at the VA maybe?) and make sure you've got all the details sorted out. Part of me wonders if you might inadvertently find yourself behind a really big eight-ball on this.
Is there any followup on that? Meaning, you tell them you're going to buy something specific, and include a specific price from the dealer, and the money gets released. And then what? Do you at some point have to go back to the government and certify that you actually spent the money on the thing you said you were going to buy?
I know nothing about this process, but the way this has been described sounds strange to me. If you've been awarded a settlement based on damages/injury/disability, it seems like that should stand alone. I don't get the idea that you need to justify the money based on what you expect to spend it on.
Maybe I'm reading you all wrong, but my "spider sense" tells me something doesn't seem right.
I'd encourage you to contact someone (at the VA maybe?) and make sure you've got all the details sorted out. Part of me wonders if you might inadvertently find yourself behind a really big eight-ball on this.
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#34
09-29-2020, 11:04 AM
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Go to the dealer and pick the bike you want. Make a serious offer and see what concessions they offer.
Regardless of where your cash comes from the reality is that you live in the USA - a capitalist country. If the dealer doesn't make a reasonable profit off of you, there is another buyer standing around that will take that deal in an instant if it is the bike that they want.
Regardless of where your cash comes from the reality is that you live in the USA - a capitalist country. If the dealer doesn't make a reasonable profit off of you, there is another buyer standing around that will take that deal in an instant if it is the bike that they want.
#35
09-29-2020, 11:06 AM
This post is about as useful as an NFL player taking a knee for a cause. If you are concerned and want to make a difference, why don't you actually do something that makes a difference? Trying in a very poor way to call someone out on an internet forum isn't making a bit of difference. It's just a bunch of chest pounding. Based off your own post it sounds like you could start off by changing who your friends are.
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09-29-2020, 11:22 AM
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09-29-2020, 11:22 AM
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09-29-2020, 11:24 AM
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For buying a bike, check this site for dealer cost...www.seedealercost.com
Those prices are not exact, as they don't involve "dealer hold back" but they should put you "in-the-ballpark."
Next thing to do: Contact all the dealerships you are willing to travel to, via email. (They ALL have internet sales divisions.)
Put out your "request for OTD quote" to each dealer. Let them see all the other dealerships they'll be bidding against, to win your business. "CC" everybody, so to speak.
Spec your bike and let them bid for your business. Close the bidding process in 72 hours. Award the winning bid, via email. Make arrangements to pick-up or have your new bike delivered to your base.
Do this bid process, just like the military does. Good luck!
For buying a bike, check this site for dealer cost...www.seedealercost.com
Those prices are not exact, as they don't involve "dealer hold back" but they should put you "in-the-ballpark."
Next thing to do: Contact all the dealerships you are willing to travel to, via email. (They ALL have internet sales divisions.)
Put out your "request for OTD quote" to each dealer. Let them see all the other dealerships they'll be bidding against, to win your business. "CC" everybody, so to speak.
Spec your bike and let them bid for your business. Close the bidding process in 72 hours. Award the winning bid, via email. Make arrangements to pick-up or have your new bike delivered to your base.
Do this bid process, just like the military does. Good luck!
#39
09-29-2020, 11:25 AM
Go to the dealer. Do not walk in expecting to get it below cost a six pack and a hook with the deal. Under current conditions MSRP maybe the start it maybe the price. What can be worked on is some perks with the deal. Big discount on extended warranty, maybe helmet tossed in.
Discount on any changes you wish to make . Maybe even just tossed in. Dealers for the most part do not take phone call price shoppers serious.
When you go in know what you can afford, Know financing option if you need to. Set a price you will not go over and do not fall for the payment number. Look at price you pay out the door.
Discount on any changes you wish to make . Maybe even just tossed in. Dealers for the most part do not take phone call price shoppers serious.
When you go in know what you can afford, Know financing option if you need to. Set a price you will not go over and do not fall for the payment number. Look at price you pay out the door.
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09-29-2020, 11:30 AM
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Not passing judgement but this is possibly the most confusing thread in the 10 years Ive been here... I dont understand the shopping reasoning (the intent of the thread) and I dont understand the government buying a Harley aspect.
Maybe im just not getting it and thats ok too...
Maybe im just not getting it and thats ok too...
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