28861-07A Automatic Compression Release tool
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28861-07A Automatic Compression Release tool
What I require:
I just ordered two new ACR solenoids but forgot to order the socket to install them with. It's not a big deal, I figure I'll just grab a regular deep socket and machine a slot up the side on my milling machine. The problem is, I don't know what size socket I need nor how far the slot needs to go up the side of the socket. Can anyone help provide those two criteria for me?
Long story:
I'm freshening up my 2008 Ultra Classic. Currently it has 165,000 kms on it and the transmission was badly worn. I decided, since I was swapping the entire transmission out for another one that I got a good deal on (27,000 kms on it) that I would also put new cylinders, pistons and heads on the 96 twin cam. I bought 2008 "new take off" cylinders, pistons & complete heads with only 3 kms on them but the new heads are ported for Automatic Compression Release solenoids. My original heads were not, so this upgrade will be a new addition to the bike. Having said that, I've also ordered the appropriate wire harness that will allow me to wire these ACR solenoids into the system. I hate wiring and it appears as though this harness won't be a simple plug and play install. With that said, I don't have it my hands yet, so I'm speculating... Harley has also told me that I'll have to bring the bike in to have it reprogrammed. Just a half hour of shop labour, no big deal. Anyway, I was wondering if I'll be able to ride the bike with the ACR solenoids physically installed into the heads but not wired up (in case I decide to let Harley install the harness). What if I get the ACR solenoids installed and the wiring harness wired in but the bike hasn't been reprogrammed? Would I be able to ride the bike without it being programmed first (ride to the dealership to have it programmed for example)?
Is there anything that I should watch for with this harness? Are there any good videos or tutorials for the harness install? I'm not able to find much but perhaps I don't know what to look for. Mainly, I need to know what size socket I'll need to modify so that I can install these ACR solenoids once they arrive...
Thanks gang!
- Dan
New heads installed but I can't go any further assembly the top end until my ACR solenoids arrive. They've been ordered.
Replacement head with ACR solenoid port.
Original head without ACR solenoid port.
Photo for reference - its been a long few days. This is my first time digging this deep into my bike. I'm taking photos of EVERYTHING along the way. Having to stop and flip through the Chilton's manual searching for torque specs is tiresome...lol
I just ordered two new ACR solenoids but forgot to order the socket to install them with. It's not a big deal, I figure I'll just grab a regular deep socket and machine a slot up the side on my milling machine. The problem is, I don't know what size socket I need nor how far the slot needs to go up the side of the socket. Can anyone help provide those two criteria for me?
Long story:
I'm freshening up my 2008 Ultra Classic. Currently it has 165,000 kms on it and the transmission was badly worn. I decided, since I was swapping the entire transmission out for another one that I got a good deal on (27,000 kms on it) that I would also put new cylinders, pistons and heads on the 96 twin cam. I bought 2008 "new take off" cylinders, pistons & complete heads with only 3 kms on them but the new heads are ported for Automatic Compression Release solenoids. My original heads were not, so this upgrade will be a new addition to the bike. Having said that, I've also ordered the appropriate wire harness that will allow me to wire these ACR solenoids into the system. I hate wiring and it appears as though this harness won't be a simple plug and play install. With that said, I don't have it my hands yet, so I'm speculating... Harley has also told me that I'll have to bring the bike in to have it reprogrammed. Just a half hour of shop labour, no big deal. Anyway, I was wondering if I'll be able to ride the bike with the ACR solenoids physically installed into the heads but not wired up (in case I decide to let Harley install the harness). What if I get the ACR solenoids installed and the wiring harness wired in but the bike hasn't been reprogrammed? Would I be able to ride the bike without it being programmed first (ride to the dealership to have it programmed for example)?
Is there anything that I should watch for with this harness? Are there any good videos or tutorials for the harness install? I'm not able to find much but perhaps I don't know what to look for. Mainly, I need to know what size socket I'll need to modify so that I can install these ACR solenoids once they arrive...
Thanks gang!
- Dan
New heads installed but I can't go any further assembly the top end until my ACR solenoids arrive. They've been ordered.
Replacement head with ACR solenoid port.
Original head without ACR solenoid port.
Photo for reference - its been a long few days. This is my first time digging this deep into my bike. I'm taking photos of EVERYTHING along the way. Having to stop and flip through the Chilton's manual searching for torque specs is tiresome...lol
#2
Hmm. I have one of the sockets if i can figure out which one it is. I know i saw one yesterday with a big slot in it while rummaging around in the toolbox. I'll go out and look at it after daylight. Yes you can run the bike with the ACR's installed and plugged in but not activated. They have to be activated in the ECU or there is simply no power going to them and they don't do anything but sit there. I built my 2007 up to a 110 several years ago with later model ACR heads. The 2007 was the first year to have a harness that would work with the ACR. I used my TTS mastertune to activate them. My God, i am surprised the transmission lasted that long. I replaced mine with a new take off tranny from a later model at 50,000 miles and the main bearing had almost failed. I always used synthetic gear oil since new and it still would have went out.
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It's a funny looking 13/16 12 point socket total length of socket 3.1", it has 2 slots cut in it. lower slot is .475 wide X .500 deep. 2nd slot is .65 wide X 1.4" deep. Total length of slot/cutout is about 1.860. Hard to measure exactly because the edges of the slots are chamfered. Funny looking little thing.
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It's a funny looking 13/16 12 point socket total length of socket 3.1", it has 2 slots cut in it. lower slot is .475 wide X .500 deep. 2nd slot is .65 wide X 1.4" deep. Total length of slot/cutout is about 1.860. Hard to measure exactly because the edges of the slots are chamfered. Funny looking little thing.
That's good to know! Thanks.
My mistake, I have the Clymer manual but I get what you're saying. The H-D ready reference torque guide would have been a handy thing to have on this job. I'll have to look into one for future repairs! Thanks.
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If you don't want to go through the trouble of making your own ACR socket, JIMS has one.
JIMS ACR Socket
JIMS ACR Socket
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