Not this...the same technology applies to the larger displacement also, doesn't it?

 

Is it worth it?

Depends on how badly you want it?

 

You are correct. A bike can be upgraded to have an engine like a CVO .

That bike then becomes a regular Harley with a CVO engine.

 

Worth is entirely subjective. The fact that Harley sells a lot(relatively) of CVO's obviously means there are a lot of people out there who think it is worth it. On a personal level, I have no interest in HD full-dress tourers or other CVO models to begin with so it would be out of the question from the start. How people spend their money is their own affair. I just see it that there are too many good used bikes out there to really go all out spending lots of money on something new. But if I was going to spend $40K on something it would be something for the house like remodeling a couple rooms, adding a deck etc., not buying a motorcycle--of any make or model.

 

If I wanted a CVO I would get one the old-fashioned way.

Steal it.

 

I believe your missing my point...I stated a old adage, "there's no replacement for displacement"...so, if you take a 114 and spend x amount of dollars to make it a 117...spend that same amount on a 117 and you have a 120....ergo....the old adage still holds true. And all this came about because someone said his new SGS with a few chrome add ons is the same as a cvo minus the paint...and I pointed out it has a larger engine also.
Still not worth 40k+ in my book, but to each their own.

 

Large displacement engines cant rev. I just sold a 675HP 3.5L V8 naturally aspirated and it only revved to 10500. You can make 900 at 19000 from 3L. The old saying applied for sure but not so much now. Also forced induction which I consider technology trumps displacement now.

 

3 cubic inches bigger lol. Going from my 80 inch EVO to 117 now thats a jump. Unfortunately the bikes are so portly now that they need to keep increasing the engine size to carry the car-like accessories.

 

Correct. If performance is the goal, there is no replacement for technology. Displacement itself is just one small part in the performance chain. There is a reason a relatively modest displacement 650CC Suzki GSXR straight off the showroom floor will totally obliterate any bike Harley makes in terms of raw street performance numbers. This reason has absolutely nothing to do with displacement. Cams, number of cylinders, valves per cylinder,.water-cooled engine, tuner, exhaust, weight, etc......end result is a bike that can run wild up to high RPM without catching fire or engine exploding. Those four cylinders in that relatively small displacement engine will work a lot faster than a huge displacement vtwin utilizing pushrods and will deliver much more power. You dont need to spend many thousands of dollars on stage upgrades to an air-cooled vtwin engine trying to chase performance. Because of technology, that small CC engine already has all the power you would need or want.

 

Are we not talking Harley engines anymore? If not, sorry....I admit to not reading every post on this thread.
Whatever you can do to a 114 I can do to a 117 and always get better numbers is all I was saying. But the subject has seemed to change a bit. Anyway, y'all have a good one...I'm out.