Are Harley Dealers closing in your area?
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I have....3, within an hours drive. One JUST closed permanently @ a month or so ago, Shenandoah HD, in Staunton, VA. There is talk of the old owner maybe reopening it. He still owns the building...There's one over in Orange, which was Waugh HD, was open for 40+yrs as a family owned business. They wanted out of it and retired to enjoy life, I think. I don't think the old man passed away. At least I hope not. Sold it to a Northern VA auto group who took it over and is now Stonewall HD. Haven't been here since the takeover. And then "my" dealer, up in Winchester, VA is Groves HD, and it's thriving. I love that dealership.
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Selling bikes like crazy in this neck of the woods. I have to laugh when people think or say the new Harleys are not innovative or competive feature wise. Right now out of all the choices, the Harley touring line offers the best comfort, mileage, electronics, control, fit and finish, paint, style, nice and quiet, plenty of power with the 114. This is as good as it has ever been for riding on 2s.
Were they over exposed and leveraged with too many dealers? Yes. Did some dealers make poor business choices? Yes. Is there a general decline in the market? Yes. Is Harley an expensive and boutique brand? Yes. Does the exploding off road scene youth still love Harleys? Yes. Will Harley survive and prosper? Yes.
Were they over exposed and leveraged with too many dealers? Yes. Did some dealers make poor business choices? Yes. Is there a general decline in the market? Yes. Is Harley an expensive and boutique brand? Yes. Does the exploding off road scene youth still love Harleys? Yes. Will Harley survive and prosper? Yes.
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Selling bikes like crazy in this neck of the woods. I have to laugh when people think or say the new Harleys are not innovative or competive feature wise. Right now out of all the choices, the Harley touring line offers the best comfort, mileage, electronics, control, fit and finish, paint, style, nice and quiet, plenty of power with the 114. This is as good as it has ever been for riding on 2s.
Were they over exposed and leveraged with too many dealers? Yes. Did some dealers make poor business choices? Yes. Is there a general decline in the market? Yes. Is Harley an expensive and boutique brand? Yes. Does the exploding off road scene youth still love Harleys? Yes. Will Harley survive and prosper? Yes.
Were they over exposed and leveraged with too many dealers? Yes. Did some dealers make poor business choices? Yes. Is there a general decline in the market? Yes. Is Harley an expensive and boutique brand? Yes. Does the exploding off road scene youth still love Harleys? Yes. Will Harley survive and prosper? Yes.
BWaaahhhhh Haaaaaaaaa... You're joking right? I'd probably give you fit/finish, but that is where I'd stop. (By the way fit/finish/paint/style) that's all the same thing... guys do not buy a $30k + touring bike and add stage kits, after market suspension on bikes that offer the top of the line above and beyond every other manufacturer... Common On Man... RDRS is standard on other bikes, not a couple grand add on. Other bikes have electronically controlled suspension that can be changed on the fly. Harley?? Not so much... Electronically controlled wind shields... You drank the cool-aid
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Falco144 (10-26-2020)
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With its emphasis on nostalgic designs, Harley has (perhaps inadvertently) positioned itself as a niche product. So what we are witnessing is a realignment of Harley's market share which reflects that reality.
It's kind of ironic, but one day in the not-too-distant future, Polaris or one of the other brands could end up owning Harley. And yet finding a buyer might prove difficult, since California and the UK have now mandated that new gas powered vehicles cannot be produced after 2035. If other nations and states follow suit, it's hard to envision any scenario in which ownership of Harley would be a sound long term investment.
As a company, Harley made a conscious choice to refuse to evolve, and now the time has come to pay the price for that decision.
It's kind of ironic, but one day in the not-too-distant future, Polaris or one of the other brands could end up owning Harley. And yet finding a buyer might prove difficult, since California and the UK have now mandated that new gas powered vehicles cannot be produced after 2035. If other nations and states follow suit, it's hard to envision any scenario in which ownership of Harley would be a sound long term investment.
As a company, Harley made a conscious choice to refuse to evolve, and now the time has come to pay the price for that decision.
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BWaaahhhhh Haaaaaaaaa... You're joking right? I'd probably give you fit/finish, but that is where I'd stop. (By the way fit/finish/paint/style) that's all the same thing... guys do not buy a $30k + touring bike and add stage kits, after market suspension on bikes that offer the top of the line above and beyond every other manufacturer... Common On Man... RDRS is standard on other bikes, not a couple grand add on. Other bikes have electronically controlled suspension that can be changed on the fly. Harley?? Not so much... Electronically controlled wind shields... You drank the cool-aid
As a champion off road racer, hard core rider, battle scarred, dirt in the veins, man, I don't care about brand, I am about the ride. I have ridden them all and the 2020 Ultra Limited was the best bike offered by all the leading brands. I had to eat a lot of crow for chosing Harley, but I don't care because a man can admit when he was wrong or had prejudices.
Just because you cam dump money into something doesn't mean you have too. All the other brands have guys dropping lots of cash after the sale.
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Calgarian (10-16-2020)
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