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Auto tunes and Data Logs send to Jaime.

Give FM a call and they’ll walk you through it.

Jaime does a good fine tune after viewing data logs.
 
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the map they sent me for cam and exhaust change works great. still should try the auto tune feature to fine tune it.
 
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Originally Posted by MTBIG G
Fuelmoto base maps are pretty dang good. However for a simple stage 1 and most stage 2s, their maps are more than enough to get your bike running good. For the best results, you should put that powervision to work and run a few autotunes.
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Originally Posted by cruisn
Yea mine runs fine but there is still some popping from the exhaust mainly when decelerating at high speeds. I figured that might be normal. But damn. It sounds like dyno might be the way to go. What did that go for, if you don't mind me asking?
Dyno was $400 but in my opinion money well spent,
I ve got absolutely nothing bad to say about fuel Moto except that every time you have to ask for a new map it’s a week long process to get one, again I’m not trash talking theyve got a business to run and builds to do that pay way more than updating the tuners they’ve already sold, and they were more than willing to keep working with me, but for me riding time is priceless and I wanted to know my bike was running right and not hurting the motor work I’d just had done so I bit the bullet, if I had to do it again I’d go straight to dyno
 
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My PV stage I tune from Fuel Moto runs great. I did do some auto tuning to fine tune it. This is my third bike with the PV from Fuel Moto, they all ran a great stage I.
 
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I installed V&H Dresser Dual s so that I could install the AT kit for PV. After a cam swap, the base map gets you started, autotune dialed it in
 
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I am satisfied with my canned tune. It is way better than what was on the bike when I bought it. I haven’t done the auto tune but will soon.
I would buy again.
A pro dyno tune may get you the final 10% do you really need 2 more hp.
 
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I would highly recommend starting with the Auto Tune procedure referenced below from our Fuel Moto University website https://university.fuelmotousa.com/

How to use Auto Tune Basic, Auto Tune PRO, & Target Tune Auto Tune with Dynojet Power Vision PV-1 and PV-2

Choose Tune to enable Auto Tune
  • Turn Ignition switch and Run switch to ON position. Engine not running
  • From main screen select PROGRAM VEHICLE then touch ACCEPT
  • Choose AUTOTUNE to to enter the main Auto Tune screen
  • To enable Auto Tune select ENABLE AT which brings up the Tune Manager
  • Choose the tune you would like to Auto Tune; touch to highlight the tune and then press SELECT. In most cases you will select the Fuel Moto tune we supplied.
  • Next choose the appropriate Auto Tune mode. Touch and SELECT either BASIC if you are using the factory narrowband O2 sensors, PRO if you are using the optional Auto Tune Pro kit with wideband O2 sensors, or if you have the optional Target Tune kit select TARGET TUNE WIDEBAND KIT
  • Select CONTINUE to enable and flash the ECM for Auto Tune operation. The Power Vision sets up the tune in a temporary state for maximum data collection and correction generation.
  • Once tune has flashed to your ECM select OK and turn the ignition switch to the off position for 10 seconds.
  • Auto Tune is now enabled and you are ready to start your first Auto Tune session.

Initiating Auto Tune
  • It is best to first get the bike to full operating temperature
  • Start motorcycle
  • Once motor is running go to PROGRAM VEHICLE>ACCEPT>AUTOTUNE
  • To start your Auto Tune session select DATALOG. This will bring you to the green histogram screen. From this screen the default screen is “hits” which will show how many times data is populated for a given cell. We generally want 10 or more hits for each cell (they will change color as they are generated). If you select the mode screen this will show you various tables, most helpful is front & rear correction which shows you the specific % fuel correction that has been generated. Note: you will not be able to reach all areas of the tune, this is normal.
  • You can now ride your bike, we generally recommend 20 minute tune sessions of mixed riding, try to hit as many RPM & load areas as possible. Note if your session is cut short you can restart the bike and go back to the Auto Tune green screen, select Datalog and continue where you left off. Correction data is stored until it is either exported or a different map is flashed to the ECM.
Saving & Applying Auto Tune corrections
  • Once you have completed your Auto Tune session before you shut the bike off select EXIT and then select EXPORT LEARNED. This step creates a new Auto Tuned map and allows you to place it in the Tune Manager. Do no overwrite the previous tune you were using, select a different slot. You now have an Auto Tune “corrected” tune in the tune manager. Note: Auto Tune maps are labeled in sequence. If you shut your bike off before you Export Learned that is OK as Auto Tune data is automatically save every 3 minutes.
  • To flash your Auto Tuned map go to PROGRAM VEHICLE>LOAD TUNE>CUSTOM TUNES and select the appropriate tune from the Tune Manager and press OK. When prompted “would you like to clear learned fuel trims” select YES. Once flash is complete turn off ignition switch for 10 seconds. You can now ride with your updated map.


TUNING TIPS:

Data & corrections are best generated in a steady state, try to be as smooth with the throttle as possible and get to as many RPM and load areas allowed. We generally recommend starting with three, 20 minute Auto Tune session for most applications. Between each Auto Tune session EXPORT LEARNED, then for the following session enable Auto Tune using the map you just created. This way you are always working forward with your corrections. It is also recommended to start the tuning process with the tune your bike runs best.

If you are using Auto Tune Basic understand it is using closed loop @ 14.6 AF, this is best suited to mild or moderate loads; a limitation of the factory narrowband sensors. If you are using Auto Tune Pro or Target Tune you can generate tune corrections over the entire operating range.
 
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
I would highly recommend starting with the Auto Tune procedure referenced below from our Fuel Moto University website https://university.fuelmotousa.com/

How to use Auto Tune Basic, Auto Tune PRO, & Target Tune Auto Tune with Dynojet Power Vision PV-1 and PV-2

Choose Tune to enable Auto Tune
  • Turn Ignition switch and Run switch to ON position. Engine not running
  • From main screen select PROGRAM VEHICLE then touch ACCEPT
  • Choose AUTOTUNE to to enter the main Auto Tune screen
  • To enable Auto Tune select ENABLE AT which brings up the Tune Manager
  • Choose the tune you would like to Auto Tune; touch to highlight the tune and then press SELECT. In most cases you will select the Fuel Moto tune we supplied.
  • Next choose the appropriate Auto Tune mode. Touch and SELECT either BASIC if you are using the factory narrowband O2 sensors, PRO if you are using the optional Auto Tune Pro kit with wideband O2 sensors, or if you have the optional Target Tune kit select TARGET TUNE WIDEBAND KIT
  • Select CONTINUE to enable and flash the ECM for Auto Tune operation. The Power Vision sets up the tune in a temporary state for maximum data collection and correction generation.
  • Once tune has flashed to your ECM select OK and turn the ignition switch to the off position for 10 seconds.
  • Auto Tune is now enabled and you are ready to start your first Auto Tune session.

Initiating Auto Tune
  • It is best to first get the bike to full operating temperature
  • Start motorcycle
  • Once motor is running go to PROGRAM VEHICLE>ACCEPT>AUTOTUNE
  • To start your Auto Tune session select DATALOG. This will bring you to the green histogram screen. From this screen the default screen is “hits” which will show how many times data is populated for a given cell. We generally want 10 or more hits for each cell (they will change color as they are generated). If you select the mode screen this will show you various tables, most helpful is front & rear correction which shows you the specific % fuel correction that has been generated. Note: you will not be able to reach all areas of the tune, this is normal.
  • You can now ride your bike, we generally recommend 20 minute tune sessions of mixed riding, try to hit as many RPM & load areas as possible. Note if your session is cut short you can restart the bike and go back to the Auto Tune green screen, select Datalog and continue where you left off. Correction data is stored until it is either exported or a different map is flashed to the ECM.
Saving & Applying Auto Tune corrections
  • Once you have completed your Auto Tune session before you shut the bike off select EXIT and then select EXPORT LEARNED. This step creates a new Auto Tuned map and allows you to place it in the Tune Manager. Do no overwrite the previous tune you were using, select a different slot. You now have an Auto Tune “corrected” tune in the tune manager. Note: Auto Tune maps are labeled in sequence. If you shut your bike off before you Export Learned that is OK as Auto Tune data is automatically save every 3 minutes.
  • To flash your Auto Tuned map go to PROGRAM VEHICLE>LOAD TUNE>CUSTOM TUNES and select the appropriate tune from the Tune Manager and press OK. When prompted “would you like to clear learned fuel trims” select YES. Once flash is complete turn off ignition switch for 10 seconds. You can now ride with your updated map.


TUNING TIPS:

Data & corrections are best generated in a steady state, try to be as smooth with the throttle as possible and get to as many RPM and load areas allowed. We generally recommend starting with three, 20 minute Auto Tune session for most applications. Between each Auto Tune session EXPORT LEARNED, then for the following session enable Auto Tune using the map you just created. This way you are always working forward with your corrections. It is also recommended to start the tuning process with the tune your bike runs best.

If you are using Auto Tune Basic understand it is using closed loop @ 14.6 AF, this is best suited to mild or moderate loads; a limitation of the factory narrowband sensors. If you are using Auto Tune Pro or Target Tune you can generate tune corrections over the entire operating range.
I was looking at this on your website just earlier today. I will do this as soon as I get home from work!
 
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:08 PM
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My base fuel map/ tune from fuel moto is pretty good, keep meaning to get out and run a couple of autotune sessions. I doubt there's many people out there with as big of a data base as Jamie and crew.
 
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