Why the FXDR isn’t a performance bike
#81
As someone who has owned the bike since September, the FXDR does quite well in the twistiness. (As any who have ridden the bike will attest to, here and on the YouTube reviews)
As for MY pros and cons about the bike so far:
Cons:
- Forward controls are not adjustable and the pegs are too small. (fixed)
- 91 octane. not sure if this an FXDR or an M8 requirement.
- Neutral. 2000 miles, and it's still a pain to get into
- kickstand always feels like it's not in place.
- gas cap has a lot of play in it.
- rear fender has a hole that throws debris and water on your back (i patched that hole)
- e-limited to 120MPH (fixed by V&H FP3)
- (not me) some owners are reporting sumping issues (this IS an M8 problem)
Pros:
- Torquey
- Comfy seat
- Snappy Throttle (2nd gear is my fav)
- Adjustable cable clutch (not hydraulics)
- Turns nicely at speed and holds the line.
- Brakes (almost as good as my ZX-10 was), very responsive and good feedback (not afraid to trail brake on this bike)
- lots of options for handlebars (traditional and more aftermarket clip ons are becoming available)
- USB port located in front of the fuel tank (great for phone, GoPro, etc)
- Headlight is extremely bright
As this is my first Harley, overall I am very happy with the bike. There is a huge potential for customization (Thunderbike, Inferno and a bunch of others, but also DIY's) that can really vary the look, which a lot of FXDR owners are doing. (picture attached)
So what if a V-ROD is faster (It is), or a Diavel has more HP. It dosen't take away that it's a hoot to ride. It's diffrent than 90% of the other bikes that Harley Davidson is offering.
It's why I bought it.
As for MY pros and cons about the bike so far:
Cons:
- Forward controls are not adjustable and the pegs are too small. (fixed)
- 91 octane. not sure if this an FXDR or an M8 requirement.
- Neutral. 2000 miles, and it's still a pain to get into
- kickstand always feels like it's not in place.
- gas cap has a lot of play in it.
- rear fender has a hole that throws debris and water on your back (i patched that hole)
- e-limited to 120MPH (fixed by V&H FP3)
- (not me) some owners are reporting sumping issues (this IS an M8 problem)
Pros:
- Torquey
- Comfy seat
- Snappy Throttle (2nd gear is my fav)
- Adjustable cable clutch (not hydraulics)
- Turns nicely at speed and holds the line.
- Brakes (almost as good as my ZX-10 was), very responsive and good feedback (not afraid to trail brake on this bike)
- lots of options for handlebars (traditional and more aftermarket clip ons are becoming available)
- USB port located in front of the fuel tank (great for phone, GoPro, etc)
- Headlight is extremely bright
As this is my first Harley, overall I am very happy with the bike. There is a huge potential for customization (Thunderbike, Inferno and a bunch of others, but also DIY's) that can really vary the look, which a lot of FXDR owners are doing. (picture attached)
So what if a V-ROD is faster (It is), or a Diavel has more HP. It dosen't take away that it's a hoot to ride. It's diffrent than 90% of the other bikes that Harley Davidson is offering.
It's why I bought it.
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#82
Thanks for more pics!
Find myself jonesing for this bike more and more.
Have had Softails since 85'. Had to have the Buell X1 even when I already had the Duc ST4.
Don't know what I was thinking with the 999 that followed.
Talk about a new model EVERYBODY HATED. (the 999) The looks kind of grew on me. Resale was a joke on both Ducs.
Got 8400 for the ST4 and think I settled for the first 10K offer on the 999 (17500.00 OTD) sold after 3 years.
Paid about 10K for the Buell and got 7500.00 from a dealer with the R1 race fairing grafted on. Bunch of other look changing carbon mods.
ANYBODY in or near Denver have one and want to see some carbon, black-magic applied?????
The rear looks like it was cut short and needs to be extended with a trunk of sorts.
JM
Have to be patient as the used ones will surely come up soon.
Find myself jonesing for this bike more and more.
Have had Softails since 85'. Had to have the Buell X1 even when I already had the Duc ST4.
Don't know what I was thinking with the 999 that followed.
Talk about a new model EVERYBODY HATED. (the 999) The looks kind of grew on me. Resale was a joke on both Ducs.
Got 8400 for the ST4 and think I settled for the first 10K offer on the 999 (17500.00 OTD) sold after 3 years.
Paid about 10K for the Buell and got 7500.00 from a dealer with the R1 race fairing grafted on. Bunch of other look changing carbon mods.
ANYBODY in or near Denver have one and want to see some carbon, black-magic applied?????
The rear looks like it was cut short and needs to be extended with a trunk of sorts.
JM
Have to be patient as the used ones will surely come up soon.
#83
#84
Not my experience. Both are pigs at low speeds due to the 240mm rear, but have decent turn-in. FXDR has better rear shock for comfort, but a little more front dive. Overall, at speed both are stable and about what you would expect out of a big-tire bike.
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#89
The Diavel isn't a cruiser and it isn't a naked sport bike. In truth, it doesn't easily fit into any category as it's got a bit of all those different bikes in it. Complicating matters futher is the fact that there is the new 2019 Diavel, which is sporty, and the XDiavel, which is a cruiser. People get them confused because of the name, but they're actually quite different bikes.
The FXDR is just a Breakout which handles slightly better. It's still an overweight, underpowered pig which costs as much or more than the most premium offerings from other brands.
Having owned multiple Diavels of different kinds, all I can say is don't even compare it to the FXDR or VROD. The torque delivery on the XDiavel is just brutal, and the Diavel S will pretty much outdrag any production motorcycle on the road today. But it isn't about raw hp, it's about how the bike feels. And the Diavel is incredibly satisfying to ride, even at very low speeds. It produces max torque at only 5,000 rpm, which means the torque curve is basically a straight line and the power is just available everywhere. That's what Diavel owners know: you don't have to go fast on it for it to be fun, it's just a hoot at any speed. But if you want to ride it fast, it will embarrass many naked bikes and some sport bikes.
As for the looks, I've never ridden anything that gets attention like the Diavel. No matter where you are or where you are going, with a full Termignoni race exhaust installed, people just stop what they're doing and look up to see what's coming and what in the world is making that sound. It's full-on Mad Max.
Ride a Diavel for a couple hundred miles. I almost guarantee you you'll never get on an FXDR again.
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#90
The Diavel is not Ducati's naked sport bike. That was the Ducati Streetfighter, which is no longer in production. The Monster 1200S is the only naked sport bike Ducati still makes. However, a V4 version of the Streetfighter is due out early next year, and that will be a true naked version of the V4 Panigale.
The Diavel isn't a cruiser and it isn't a naked sport bike. In truth, it doesn't easily fit into any category as it's got a bit of all those different bikes in it. Complicating matters futher is the fact that there is the new 2019 Diavel, which is sporty, and the XDiavel, which is a cruiser. People get them confused because of the name, but they're actually quite different bikes.
The FXDR is just a Breakout which handles slightly better. It's still an overweight, underpowered pig which costs as much or more than the most premium offerings from other brands.
Having owned multiple Diavels of different kinds, all I can say is don't even compare it to the FXDR or VROD. The torque delivery on the XDiavel is just brutal, and the Diavel S will pretty much outdrag any production motorcycle on the road today. But it isn't about raw hp, it's about how the bike feels. And the Diavel is incredibly satisfying to ride, even at very low speeds. It produces max torque at only 5,000 rpm, which means the torque curve is basically a straight line and the power is just available everywhere. That's what Diavel owners know: you don't have to go fast on it for it to be fun, it's just a hoot at any speed. But if you want to ride it fast, it will embarrass many naked bikes and some sport bikes.
As for the looks, I've never ridden anything that gets attention like the Diavel. No matter where you are or where you are going, with a full Termignoni race exhaust installed, people just stop what they're doing and look up to see what's coming and what in the world is making that sound. It's full-on Mad Max.
Ride a Diavel for a couple hundred miles. I almost guarantee you you'll never get on an FXDR again.
The Diavel isn't a cruiser and it isn't a naked sport bike. In truth, it doesn't easily fit into any category as it's got a bit of all those different bikes in it. Complicating matters futher is the fact that there is the new 2019 Diavel, which is sporty, and the XDiavel, which is a cruiser. People get them confused because of the name, but they're actually quite different bikes.
The FXDR is just a Breakout which handles slightly better. It's still an overweight, underpowered pig which costs as much or more than the most premium offerings from other brands.
Having owned multiple Diavels of different kinds, all I can say is don't even compare it to the FXDR or VROD. The torque delivery on the XDiavel is just brutal, and the Diavel S will pretty much outdrag any production motorcycle on the road today. But it isn't about raw hp, it's about how the bike feels. And the Diavel is incredibly satisfying to ride, even at very low speeds. It produces max torque at only 5,000 rpm, which means the torque curve is basically a straight line and the power is just available everywhere. That's what Diavel owners know: you don't have to go fast on it for it to be fun, it's just a hoot at any speed. But if you want to ride it fast, it will embarrass many naked bikes and some sport bikes.
As for the looks, I've never ridden anything that gets attention like the Diavel. No matter where you are or where you are going, with a full Termignoni race exhaust installed, people just stop what they're doing and look up to see what's coming and what in the world is making that sound. It's full-on Mad Max.
Ride a Diavel for a couple hundred miles. I almost guarantee you you'll never get on an FXDR again.