I'll check it out - thanks.

 

I see them for sell pretty often

 

All you need is some crazy aussies!

To answer some other questions :

-ABS is standard
-Brembo brakes front and back.

 

Thanks for the video.
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Points I found interesting in the video:
"Is it better than a Suzuki Boulevard (which they figure is it's closest competition, the Diavel is out of it's league in superiority in their opinion)..yes it is, is it twice as good because it costs twice as much....no it isn't."

"I would own one..yes, Would I pay for one...NO" I know Harley's cost more in Australia but even here the Suzuki is much less expensive.

They didn't test a stock FXDR, much less take it on the track for real testing like motorcycle magazines do with most other bikes. The torque curve is good but not much better than the Suzuki.
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So Harley just put out a slightly better version of the Suzuki Boulevard LOL. That's why I asked earlier in this thread if anyone would have purchased if it didn't have the Harley logo on it.

I'm not knocking you because I would ride one. I really liked my 09 Vrod Muscle which the FXDR reminds me of. It's HD's over-hype and over-pricing that's the issue for me on this model. I sincerely hope HD folks do look for feedback from this site. If not and I don't recommend you do this Gomez, they should go to YouTube and read the comment sections below all the FXDR review videos. Most trash the bike for valid reasons. Many of those commenting are the folks HD is trying to bring over with the FXDR.

For HD's sake, I hope I am wrong and they sell the heck out of the FXDR (and vastly overpriced Live Wire) and bring over many happy owners from other brands. If not, they better not take the "it's good enough because it's a Harley and people will pay more for it anyway" attitude when they bring out the upcoming new models. This from someone who would have purchased the FXDR at that price had it come from the factory with the upgraded 117 with performance exhaust & intake.

PS I do think Harley has "best in class" Touring models and cruisers. Their dealer network is also unmatched.

 

I'm pretty sure the M109 Boulevard is faster. Only 5 speeds but 114HP/116 TQ. Those are solid numbers for a bike of that type.

 

If I were looking for an alternative. (I just did)

BMW, Triumph, MotoGuzzi would be up there with/before Ducati and perhaps MV Augusta.

SUKA-YAMA-KAWI would NOT be on my short list. No soul or substance, for me.

If a "Dresser, or Bagger", was on my list (haven't looked at the Jap stuff) The BMW would be my first choice.

Power-Cruiser? Not many if any other choices.
There is one that I would die for;
Triumph Rocket 3 TFC

29,000.00

Even the V-max is 17,999.00 I used to like them but non of the Jap brands did anything for me. Used to be a concept Yamaha I really liked?

This next bike may be my last bike purchase? 1st new Softail kept 15 years, second will be 20 Christmas eve.
The Buell X1, 999 and ST4 Ducatis' only lasted 3-5 years.

JM

 

So they only thing diffrent on that from a stock FXDR is the exhaust. The stock pipe is baffled to hell (Emissions). Replacing the pipes has yielded a 10-15 HP increase on average (This coming from dyno's on the FXDR 114 owners page)

As for the Top Speed, it is electronically limited to 120. I can hit that in 5th gear on the FXDR and have another gear to go. But you really don't ride this for "Top Speed". You ride it to the next stoplight, or to the rual watering hole, and laugh while doing it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: This bike is not for everyone. And at $21k+ price point, it is not going to sell many (we only have about 150 members in the FXDR group worldwide). I will say build quality compared to Japanese offering is solid, even with the plastic cover parts, and personally think that if this bike was in the $16-20K range (depending on options), it would sell more.

But the guys in the review hit the nail on the head. Traditional Harley riders are probably not going to like it. But those of us coming from the Sportbike community love it (go do a search on Instagram for the FXDR and you will see a much more favorable response from the non HD community.)

And yes, the HD marketing on this bike is laughable. Someone said it earlier that compared to other HD's, it does out perform. But it is kinda like calling a Ford Mustang GT a performance car compared to a Corvette, Shelby GT, GT 500, Hellcat, etc.. it looks the part but will get eaten. The FXDR will not stand to a Diavel X, Aprilla Touno, Kawasaki Z1000, etc.

*note on the Diavel... My HD dealer is now also a Ducati dealer as well. Getting up and close with it, my impressions is it's not really a cruiser.. it's a monster with a diffrent fairing.

But here's the thing. Harley still makes the SG, RG, RGS, CVO, etc, etc. Other than the V-rod (which was fun) you can still get those other bikes. And even within the Softail lineup, you have so much diversity.

But you really have to ride this thing. Talking about it, or watching a video dosen't do it justice. Ride it down the backroads where you can toss it around. In stock form, the ergonomics are iffy, but being able to adjust the clip ons and customizing it (which is when I talk to any Harley rider, they ALL modify their bikes.. that is the pull for HD), makes it actually comfortable.

I've had it since September, and those of us that own it, love the damn thing. The marketing may be trash, but the bike itself isn't.

-2 cents


My FXDR Bagger project

 

https://c.ndtvimg.com/2019-01/d8dn5e...January_19.jpg

Can't seem to post an image .

Lots' of carbon!
2500cc's and 168 Hp/163 torque.

That should be fun?
Can't find a listed weight but the BMW Dresser is about 300 lbs lighter than a Harley Bagger!

JM

 

I find it so funny that whenever someone mentions the FXDR, all of a sudden everyone starts posting numbers...HP, Price, all the rest.....yet you compare ANY other Harley to a Japanese counterpart its suddenly not about the numbers (as the imports blow away Harley on Price, HP, Cost of ownership, etc...) This is practically the only bike I have ever seen where suddenly people who have never even sat on one, let alone ride one, and are just preaching away on HP numbers and Price...LOLZ....I can absolutely tell you that reading an article or looking at the opinions of the interwebz is even remotely doing the bike justice....its a BLAST to ride...period...

 

"WORD", is that what the Hipsters/OG's are saying lately. ^^^^^!!!!!!!!!!

READ the last sentence . That is coming from a guy that owns the PAN-ultimate Ducati!

If this bike is fun for him to ride, that says a LOT.

JM