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Old 09-08-2018, 05:38 AM
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Hey all! A little rant if you don't mind. Got home from work last night and thought I'd change the oil in the bike before going back to work. Starting off, couldn't figure out where the drain plug was (sounds like I'm an idiot, I know but it was my first oil change on this bike). Found that, dropped the oil out, then moved up to the filter. A little backstory, the dealer where I got the bike was the same one I bought my last bike from. Went to change the oil in that last summer and couldn't get the filter off that one either. Not sure if they over tightened or didn't put any oil around the seal, either way I destroyed that filter getting it off. Back to last night,same thing again! Full disclosure: I since haven't bought a strap wrench or something other than a cap wrench to remove a filter so this is partly my fault. Anyway, still haven't got the filter off and its full of holes from a screwdriver (leading to a nice oil stain on the garage floor). Gonna hit up the local auto parts store this morning and grab some more tools to get it off.Hopefully this won't happen next time, bought a K&N with the nut on the end for a wrench. If you've had the patience to read all this, thanks for letting me vent. Have a good Saturday.
 
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Old 09-08-2018, 05:54 AM
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So you're gonna have to take a day off work to finish the job?
 
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Old 09-08-2018, 05:55 AM
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Things will go a lot better with that K&N filter next time, I find em a lot easier although in all honesty the HD filter Cup isn’t so bad, just awkward for me. Take a look at the ride it wrench it guys videos on you tube, they’re pretty good and will get you on the right track, and pick yourself up a Service Manual - it’s worth it in the long run.

Good Luck getting the rest of the filter off this morning!
 
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Old 09-08-2018, 06:14 AM
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Hard to believe that a dealer would hose up a simple oil change, especially twice in a row but stranger things happen. IDK what bike you have but with the touring bikes there is little room to get anything around the filter for removal. Smooth move with K&N and I will only use them. Best of luck going forward. Let us know how it goes with getting that one off. It might help someone else going forward.
 
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Old 09-08-2018, 07:23 AM
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If you have the proper filter socket they come very easy i would invest in the proper tools prior to starting any maintenance or repair
 
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Old 09-08-2018, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by XRX
So you're gonna have to take a day off work to finish the job?
Nah I'm gonna do it after work this evening or maybe tomorrow morning.
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Things will go a lot better with that K&N filter next time, I find em a lot easier although in all honesty the HD filter Cup isn’t so bad, just awkward for me. Take a look at the ride it wrench it guys videos on you tube, they’re pretty good and will get you on the right track, and pick yourself up a Service Manual - it’s worth it in the long run.

Good Luck getting the rest of the filter off this morning!
Thanks! YouTube is a pretty great resource.
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If you have the proper filter socket they come very easy i would invest in the proper tools prior to starting any maintenance or repair
Like I said, it was partly my fault for not being equipped right, filter just didn't have to be that tight in the first place.
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Hard to believe that a dealer would hose up a simple oil change, especially twice in a row but stranger things happen. IDK what bike you have but with the touring bikes there is little room to get anything around the filter for removal. Smooth move with K&N and I will only use them. Best of luck going forward. Let us know how it goes with getting that one off. It might help someone else going forward.
Yeah I'll not be going back to them for any service in the future.
 

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Old 09-08-2018, 08:12 AM
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Was the engine warm? That seems to help and get's more of the old oil out.
I would add you get points for being brave enough to post this
 
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Put a paper towel over the end of the filter and then put the cap wrench on. It gives it more bite
 
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I had a hard time getting the filter off of my wife's Dyna. But, it could have been worse, and you'll be back on your bike soon.
 
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We all ( should ) know this but even when followed it can be a tough task to remove a filter ... I've had a couple that were destroyed getting them off even after having installed it "by the manual"

Use Harley-Davidson oil filter wrench for filter removal.
This tool can prevent damage to crankshaft position
sensor and/or sensor cable. (00192b)
5. See Figure 1-4. Remove the oil filter using OIL FILTER
WRENCH (Part No. HD-42311) or OIL FILTER
WRENCH (Part No. HD-44067A) and hand tools. Do not
use with air tools.
6. Clean the oil filter mount flange of any old gasket material.
NOTE
Dispose of oil and oil filter in accordance with local regulations.
7. See Figure 1-5. Lubricate gasket with clean engine oil and
install new oil filter on filter mount. Hand tighten oil filter
1/2-3/4 turn after gasket first contacts filter mounting surface. Do not use OIL FILTER WRENCH (Part No. HD-
42311) for oil filter installation.
 
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