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I would not want to tour on a Supersport, any more than I would want to tour on a Cruiser.
The Hayabusa is not a Supersport- it's a Sport-Touring motorcycle, and it functions very well in that role. It has a 58.5" wheelbase and a 5.5 gallon fuel tank (Supersports typically have about a 55" wheelbase and a smaller fuel tank). We only had to stop about every 225 miles or so for fuel, and did 1,000 miles easy in one day. We even went out for a quick ride to Cannery Row in Old Monterey that night for dinner at The Blue Fin after setting up our tent at the track.
The Hayabusa is not a Supersport- it's a Sport-Touring motorcycle, and it functions very well in that role. It has a 58.5" wheelbase and a 5.5 gallon fuel tank (Supersports typically have about a 55" wheelbase and a smaller fuel tank). We only had to stop about every 225 miles or so for fuel, and did 1,000 miles easy in one day. We even went out for a quick ride to Cannery Row in Old Monterey that night for dinner at The Blue Fin after setting up our tent at the track.
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From the Iron Butt link posted by sailmotion:
Out of those 16 riders, only ONE of them did it entirely on a Harley-Davidson.
11 of them used BMWs. 5 of them used Hondas. And one use a Suzuki (some riders used more than one motorcycle to reach their goal).
Million Mile Riders (documented 1,000,000 miles plus!):
Name State Years Year Motorcycle Mileage
Dave McQueeney CA 1974-2017 1997 BMWs 2,000,087 - reached 1,000,000 in 1997 - reached 2,000,000 in 2017
Phil Steiner OH 1991-2014 2013 Hondas 500,000 one GW 1,100,000+
Ron Ayres TX 1987-2014 2014 BMWs 1,000,000+
Bill & Sharon PoerIN 1973-2013 2013 Honda (entirely) 1,006,000
Heidi Still AZ 1976-2011 2011 BMW, Honda, Suzuki 1,015,000
Ardys Kellerman TX -2011 2011 BMW 1,002,000
Voni Glaves TX -2011 2011 BMW 1,003,000
Daniel Stephans WI 1963-2011 2004 H-D 2,787,437
Dave Zien WI 1962-2011 2011 H-D (entirely) 2,388,477
Frank Boorn GA 1993-2017 2011 H-D 1,235,000
Michael LaDue WA 1970-2017 2010 Honda, BMW, H-D 2,000,000 - reached 1,000,000 05/30/1998
Robert Higdon FL 1973-2009 2009 BMWs 1,149,798 - reached 1,000,000 09/08/2008
Roy Eastwood ON 1952-2010 2010 BMW (all miles) 1,150,000
Dave Swisher VA 1973-2015 2008 BMW (all miles) 1,702,012 84 years young!*
David Mishalof CA 1982-2015 2008 BMW, Honda, H-D 1,077,903 Lyle Grimes LA -2009 BMWs 1,000,000+
Name State Years Year Motorcycle Mileage
Dave McQueeney CA 1974-2017 1997 BMWs 2,000,087 - reached 1,000,000 in 1997 - reached 2,000,000 in 2017
Phil Steiner OH 1991-2014 2013 Hondas 500,000 one GW 1,100,000+
Ron Ayres TX 1987-2014 2014 BMWs 1,000,000+
Bill & Sharon PoerIN 1973-2013 2013 Honda (entirely) 1,006,000
Heidi Still AZ 1976-2011 2011 BMW, Honda, Suzuki 1,015,000
Ardys Kellerman TX -2011 2011 BMW 1,002,000
Voni Glaves TX -2011 2011 BMW 1,003,000
Daniel Stephans WI 1963-2011 2004 H-D 2,787,437
Dave Zien WI 1962-2011 2011 H-D (entirely) 2,388,477
Frank Boorn GA 1993-2017 2011 H-D 1,235,000
Michael LaDue WA 1970-2017 2010 Honda, BMW, H-D 2,000,000 - reached 1,000,000 05/30/1998
Robert Higdon FL 1973-2009 2009 BMWs 1,149,798 - reached 1,000,000 09/08/2008
Roy Eastwood ON 1952-2010 2010 BMW (all miles) 1,150,000
Dave Swisher VA 1973-2015 2008 BMW (all miles) 1,702,012 84 years young!*
David Mishalof CA 1982-2015 2008 BMW, Honda, H-D 1,077,903 Lyle Grimes LA -2009 BMWs 1,000,000+
Out of those 16 riders, only ONE of them did it entirely on a Harley-Davidson.
11 of them used BMWs. 5 of them used Hondas. And one use a Suzuki (some riders used more than one motorcycle to reach their goal).
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From the Iron Butt link posted by sailmotion:
Out of those 16 riders, only ONE of them (the guy in 9th place) did it entirely on a Harley-Davidson.
11 of them used BMWs. 5 of them used Hondas. And one use a Suzuki (some riders used more than one motorcycle to reach their goal).
Of the top 7 riders, they used only BMW, Honda, and Suzuki motorcycles.
Out of those 16 riders, only ONE of them (the guy in 9th place) did it entirely on a Harley-Davidson.
11 of them used BMWs. 5 of them used Hondas. And one use a Suzuki (some riders used more than one motorcycle to reach their goal).
Of the top 7 riders, they used only BMW, Honda, and Suzuki motorcycles.
Those are rider miles, not bike miles. I know of most of the people on that list being a BMWMOA member. And that's not in numerical order. Did you notice that the highest mileage numbers went to Harley riders?
And some of the BMWs riders achieved those numbers out of sheer stubbornness. The Glaves are very well known in BMW circles and not surprisingly, very good BMW mechanics. Believe me, they get plenty of practice.
That said, I love the two in my garage right now.
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Don't you dare try to confuse him will facts, or common sense!
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From the Iron Butt link posted by sailmotion:
Out of those 16 riders, only ONE of them (the guy in 9th place) did it entirely on a Harley-Davidson.
11 of them used BMWs. 5 of them used Hondas. And one use a Suzuki (some riders used more than one motorcycle to reach their goal).
Of the top 7 riders, they used only BMW, Honda, and Suzuki motorcycles.
Out of those 16 riders, only ONE of them (the guy in 9th place) did it entirely on a Harley-Davidson.
11 of them used BMWs. 5 of them used Hondas. And one use a Suzuki (some riders used more than one motorcycle to reach their goal).
Of the top 7 riders, they used only BMW, Honda, and Suzuki motorcycles.
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But again you fail to understand what that list means. It's more about the rider than the bike. The only reason ANY of those bikes made it to that kind of mileage is due to the perseverance of their owners. Many motor, tranny and in the case of the BMWs, final drive rebuilds.
But even that doesn't tell the tale. You also glossed right over the post by Sailmotion that proved that most Iron Butt riders are on Harleys. Why? Because that's exactly what they are built to do - cover long distances in comfort. Sure.....the old joke of the touring bike goes round and round. But we used to joke about BMWs on trailers at BMW rallies too. And I'm pretty sure I've heard the same joke about Italian bikes. But the punchline was more that they aren't reliable enough to make it anywhere.
And as mentioned, there's even more than that. The BMW riders mentioned are all old school hardcore mileage freaks. That's all they do. It has nothing to do with the quality of the bike. It's again, more about the breed of rider.
Now there are some seriously competitive IBA riders who want to win awards for covering as much ground as fast as possible in a certain period of time. I believe most of those guys are on FJRs. Great bikes, but again, I don't fit.
And lastly, Harley Davidson ranks above BMW in reliability and customer satisfaction. So there's that.