Couple things I'd like to know: Why is it that if someone doesn't like something, they are called "close minded"? I for one think the new "Softails" are atrocious...they look like Honda VLXs, and they sound worse. Yes; I rode them at Daytona demo rides; they ride beautifully & are smooth as glass, but so what? They don't look, sound OR feel like Harleys; they feel very Jap to me. Also...why does everyone rate a bike by its ability to be ridden aggressively? Ya wanna ride aggressive, buy sportcrap. Harleys ain't made for that crap; they are made for riding long haul, and "stylin' & profilin'". Yea; you can ride rice, sauerkraut, or pasta agressively, but try taking one cross country. And as far as young people liking them...well millenials have taste up their ***; want proof? Just give a listen to that garbage they call music nowadays. No wonder they like the FXDR. And yea; "things" used to be much better...except Harleys don't leak anymore, and you ain't gotta search for a half hour to find a pay phone that works nowadays...but everything else sucks.

I've said it before, & I'll say it again: "If it don't move me in the showroom, it ain't gonna move me down the road".

 

you're closed minded because you f***ing don't like anything.

 

 

A Ferrari beat a 57 Chevy in every measureable way, except looks and I'll take the 57 everyday of the year. Sure, either of those bikes post better numbers than my springer... but I wouldn't trade it for either, or both em.

 

Nice. I use that analogy all the time but with a '34 Ford hot rod.

 

Agree. Why not stick with the style that made you famous? You can do all the motor / electronics / balancing / better handling / etc and still preserve the look without getting so garish and offensive. "Dance with the one that brung 'ye". Why poke everyone in the eye with a stick?

 

I don't blame HD for trying a new style, and apparently it's working with the intended audience. However, burns me when those people with the new ones try flaming us "old guys" for not being into the latest and greatest

 

well it can be pointed out that you "old guys" started it. buddy buys a brand new bike that he thinks is great, then all the "old guys" jump in saying it's a piece of **** they would never own. so there's that...