Two spark plugs per cylinder...good or bad?
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Two spark plugs per cylinder...good or bad?
What are the benefits and problems(in any) of the two spark plugs per cyclinder in the M8 engine? Does dual plugs make everything more complicated and thus likely to cause problems over the long run? Does it create more heat or less heat? Are the two plugs fired at the same time or does each plug have its own timing table? Any more thoughts on this would be helpful.
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Plugs in each cylinder fire at the same time but you can set it up for single fire per hole , meaning front & rear will fire separately. On the M8's I'm not sure how they have the ignition setup, haven't looked yet. I can't see a downside to it aside from costs if anything goes bad and the hassle changing them.
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What are the benefits and problems(in any) of the two spark plugs per cyclinder in the M8 engine? Does dual plugs make everything more complicated and thus likely to cause problems over the long run? Does it create more heat or less heat? Are the two plugs fired at the same time or does each plug have its own timing table? Any more thoughts on this would be helpful.
Last edited by MRFREEZE57; 07-29-2018 at 10:53 PM.
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As in all modern engines these days, it is part of emissions, and secondly, helping get extra power, by ensuring a more complete burn. As I have little experience with the new M8, modern motors, use dual plugs in a slight timing gap, to extend burn times. As direct injection starts to take over, they are going back to single plug systems. They don't run hotter, and other than the maintenance issue you won't even notice it.
The timing difference is milliseconds, blink of an eye divided by a bunch!
you're comparing smog motors vs non smog stuff. Remember emissions are paramount in the equation, of power, mileage, and emissions.
The timing difference is milliseconds, blink of an eye divided by a bunch!
you're comparing smog motors vs non smog stuff. Remember emissions are paramount in the equation, of power, mileage, and emissions.
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when they went to 4 valves per cylinder in the M8, they had to reduce the "squish" area of the combustion chamber. the squish zone is the flat part of the cylinder head surface which comes very close to the piston crown as it approaches top dead center (TDC):
when the piston approaches TDC, it "squishes" out the air:fuel mixture from that zone creating a ton of turbulence in the chamber which improves mixing, prevents detonation, and promotes uniform burn of the air:fuel mixture. the less squish you have, the less turbulence you have and your ignition reliability and detonation resistance goes down. Here's a Twin Cam "bathtub" chamber:
those flats at the top and bottom are the squish areas of the chamber. here's an M8 "pentroof" chamber:
see how much smaller the squish area is?
and this is nothing new, Harleys used to be hemi chambered, which are absolutely the worst for ignition reliability and detonation resistance because they have no squish whatsoever. The modern (5.7/6.1/6.4) Chrysler Hemi is not a true hemi yet it still needs two plugs per cylinder.
when the piston approaches TDC, it "squishes" out the air:fuel mixture from that zone creating a ton of turbulence in the chamber which improves mixing, prevents detonation, and promotes uniform burn of the air:fuel mixture. the less squish you have, the less turbulence you have and your ignition reliability and detonation resistance goes down. Here's a Twin Cam "bathtub" chamber:
those flats at the top and bottom are the squish areas of the chamber. here's an M8 "pentroof" chamber:
see how much smaller the squish area is?
and this is nothing new, Harleys used to be hemi chambered, which are absolutely the worst for ignition reliability and detonation resistance because they have no squish whatsoever. The modern (5.7/6.1/6.4) Chrysler Hemi is not a true hemi yet it still needs two plugs per cylinder.
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