Funny how thread about sportsters turned into an Indian thread....SMH
people need to stop making excuses for harley's BS. keep it real. not every rider is an old man that rides slow and is ok with **** poor performance for he same price a as a better performing bike.
No hate here. The Scout Bobber is the only Indian that's decent looking in my opinion. However, I haven't heard one that sounded good to me. Do I feel compelled to replace my Nightster with one. Nope.
Yes, the Scout may look sexier on a dyno sheet (piece of paper), but so what? If that's what matters to someone...
I had a ZX-12R before I had the Nightster. Which of those two have I enjoyed more? I'd give the edge to the Nightster. Now the 12 may have been superseded by the 14, but even by today's standards is/was a pretty powerful machine (and arguably better looking than the 14). In terms of having power on tap - it had it. Still, I find myself enjoying the old Sporty more.
Now why is that? For one, I think it has a lot to do with where and how it's ridden. I ride American roads. There is no Autobahn where I live. I spend most of my time on back country/county roads and state highways. For the conditions that I ride in, the Sporty has plenty of performance/ability. Do I care that another bike might show 10 more HP on a sheet of paper? Not really. I care more about the overall package. Does it do what I need it to do? Does it look good to me? Does it sound good to me? Does it have character that I find appealing? The Sporty does all that for me.
Granted, time moves on. Pressures to compete exist. Still, there is a lot about the character of the Sporty that I hope they don't loose in the name of progress. My hunch is that we'll see some sort of amalgamation between the 750 Street models Revolution X motor and the Sporty. Sure there may be some upside to that. But, the downside is that it may become just another metric/Japanese/modern like variant. It will sound like another sowing machine - just like the Indian etc. etc. etc.
It's a complete myth that HD riders don't care about HP. Just the opposite. HD owners do more mods to their bikes to add additional power than any other (and all other) manufacturers. Combined. HD owners are obsessed with making more power.
So, let's stop spreading that lie that they don't.
It does to me. And when it comes to me spending money on motorcycles, that's all that matters.
thats the point... you aren't everyone. You are you. You like not reving... thats you
Originally Posted by T^2
No hate here. The Scout Bobber is the only Indian that's decent looking in my opinion. However, I ....
Again... projecting you onto the whole of the market. What you do is not what we all do. I'm on countyroads too reving to 7000 and looking for a deer to send me to meet jesus. The trade off is that my bike is now loud with valvetrain noise and high strung.
I want the power and a non high strung engine that delivers a stable output of 90+ hp, stock.
If you want to keep rolling on older bikes thats fine... there are millions of sportsters out there for you and dan at hammer and others will happily take your money for performance modifications. You don't have to give up your bike or the current breed.
Agreed, the whole thing with H-D is they sell the bike uncomfortable,slow, or what ever adjective you want to use, you as an owner spend $$$ making it into your version of what it should have been . I suppose that's what makes them "Personal". People who aren't into keeping them long wont go this far with them
It's a complete myth that HD riders don't care about HP. Just the opposite. HD owners do more mods to their bikes to add additional power than any other (and all other) manufacturers. Combined. HD owners are obsessed with making more power.
So, let's stop spreading that lie that they don't.
If I cared that much about HP, I wouldn't be riding a Harley. You can buy motorcycles brand new (and for far less) that have performance numbers from the factory that a Harley will likely never achieve.
Spending significant chunks of change chasing numbers on a Harley is a ....
If I cared that much about HP, I wouldn't be riding a Harley. You can buy motorcycles brand new (and for far less) that have performance numbers from the factory that a Harley will likely never achieve.
Spending significant chunks of change chasing numbers on a Harley is a ....
Well you get the point.
More Harley owners mod their bikes to add more power than owners of all other manufacturers. Combined. That's just a fact. So, they absolutely do care about power.
12-11-2017 | 06:10 AM
