Counter Steering
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10-13-2017, 05:30 PM
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10-13-2017, 06:05 PM
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10-13-2017, 06:27 PM
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As I understand it, to force a sharp turn you have to get off the center road contact patch of your tire and pitch the bike onto the SIDEWALL of the tire so that you make it turn.
Shifting your weight may not do much to get the bike onto its sidewall as the wheels are acting as gyroscopes and resist tipping the bike much ESPECIALLY AT SPEED when the gyroscope effect is strongest.
Yet by pushing forward HARD on the left handlebar your wheel points RIGHT for a second but it also forces the front end to start chewing on the LEFT sidewall of the tire because the wheel has been twisted to the right.
This gets you off the center contact patch and makes the bike swerve LEFT.
Motorcycles are two wheeled gyroscopes and can not be easily TURNED.
They have to be swerved by getting them over onto the SIDE of the tire..
Shifting your weight may not do much to get the bike onto its sidewall as the wheels are acting as gyroscopes and resist tipping the bike much ESPECIALLY AT SPEED when the gyroscope effect is strongest.
Yet by pushing forward HARD on the left handlebar your wheel points RIGHT for a second but it also forces the front end to start chewing on the LEFT sidewall of the tire because the wheel has been twisted to the right.
This gets you off the center contact patch and makes the bike swerve LEFT.
Motorcycles are two wheeled gyroscopes and can not be easily TURNED.
They have to be swerved by getting them over onto the SIDE of the tire..
His right or the elbow or the elbow in the right of the pic?
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Yes....the MikeR1 Countersteering thread. It had all the elements -
Newby initially asking for advice
Newby rejecting all advice given.
Newby telling everyone how it really works.
Epic dog pile on newby.
Snarky newby responses with diagrams to prove how it's done.
Dog pile becomes galactically huge. Mods take notice.
More diagrams.
The arrival of 1 or 2 rational members who try to support the newbie and guide him through the learning process.
Newby instinctively goes for the jugular of rational members.
Rational members bail.
Dog pile now is like the Borg - it assimilates all who enter.
Mods step up the game with sternly worded intervention - "knock it off guys or the thread is closed!"
Mods ignored by all because the goal is to get the thread closed.
Newby implodes and puts everyone on HDF on his ignore list, but continues to post his Google knowledge with, yes, more diagrams.
Yours truly inserts completely unrelated and totally stupid gifs to eat up bandwidth.
More Diagrams.
More gifs.
Did I mention diagrams?
Finally thread gets closed by Izzo who receives a record number of "Thanks".
Newby initially asking for advice
Newby rejecting all advice given.
Newby telling everyone how it really works.
Epic dog pile on newby.
Snarky newby responses with diagrams to prove how it's done.
Dog pile becomes galactically huge. Mods take notice.
More diagrams.
The arrival of 1 or 2 rational members who try to support the newbie and guide him through the learning process.
Newby instinctively goes for the jugular of rational members.
Rational members bail.
Dog pile now is like the Borg - it assimilates all who enter.
Mods step up the game with sternly worded intervention - "knock it off guys or the thread is closed!"
Mods ignored by all because the goal is to get the thread closed.
Newby implodes and puts everyone on HDF on his ignore list, but continues to post his Google knowledge with, yes, more diagrams.
Yours truly inserts completely unrelated and totally stupid gifs to eat up bandwidth.
More Diagrams.
More gifs.
Did I mention diagrams?
Finally thread gets closed by Izzo who receives a record number of "Thanks".
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