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Old 11-16-2017, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BTLorys
Just here to stir the pot....

One could argue counter steering is used to maintain your angle because you need to keep pressure on the left handle bar during your left turn to maintain the angle...if you let up on the pressure your bike is straightening up. Assuming perfect conditions, continuous throttle, smooth flat road etc...

Basically science lab conditions. Not real life.
Or, one could say that once a lean is initiated, the "correct" posture should be that the bike continues to maintain that lean, until another force is applied...
 
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Old 11-16-2017, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BTLorys
Have you considered keeping the training wheels while simultaneously balancing a drink in one hand? That way you would maximize consumption while exhibiting your expert abilities? Best of both worlds. That said, I can understand how training wheels would still embarrass a true professional.
That would be excessive. Moderation is key.
 
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Originally Posted by NORTY FLATZ
Or, one could say that once a lean is initiated, the "correct" posture should be that the bike continues to maintain that lean, until another force is applied...
Until speed, and centrifugal force, attempts to push the scooter to the outside of the turn. Perhaps that is the 'another force?

The same logic as in flat track or speedway racing, to a much lesser degree of course?
 

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The only people that truly enjoy an argument between engineers are the engineers themselves.

At this point, I propose an engineering subforum where these guys can bash the technical details to death while the rest of us drink and have a good time.
 
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I am thinking of hiring a designated counter steering specialist. I will ride until I come to a curve, stop, dismount and allow him/her to take the bike through the curve. I will join them after the curve and resume riding. This is the safest way.
 
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Originally Posted by Redoilokie
The only people that truly enjoy an argument between engineers are the engineers themselves.

At this point, I propose an engineering subforum where these guys can bash the technical details to death while the rest of us drink and have a good time.
Before they go would you ask them to calculate the rate of alcohol burn off in a 210 lb adult, with and without full stomach contents, and what affect, if any, the motion of the motorcycle has on it?
 
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Before they go would you ask them to calculate the rate of alcohol burn off in a 210 lb adult, with and without full stomach contents, and what affect, if any, the motion of the motorcycle has on it?
It almost looks like you're volunteering to be a research test subject.
 
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It almost looks like you're volunteering to be a research test subject.
Not at all. I am asking for a friend.
 
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Not at all. I am asking for a friend.

Absolutely. Purely for science, of course.
 
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Originally Posted by OKMICK
I am thinking of hiring a designated counter steering specialist.
What is a "counter steering specialist"? Until reading this stuff, the only time I had ever heard the term 'counter steering' was in regards to correcting a cage that had it's back end coming around, "steer into the slide". On a motorcycle, or a bicycle, it seemed to be a natural event that I didn't even realize was occuring.

It never occurred to me that it was such a 'mysterious' thing that it had to be taught. Perhaps because when I became licensed to ride a scooter on the street I was, had been, riding a bicycle for about a decade. It never occurred to me that steering the two 'rides' was different.
 

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