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Old 11-15-2017, 01:48 PM
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Here's a little parlor trick you can do to amaze your guests.....

If you have an M8 touring bike you can ride holding a beer in each hand, and beer will transfer from one can to the other!

And the harder you countersteer, the faster the rate of transfer!
 
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Originally Posted by hairymoth
You jest, but wanting a hand free to hold my beer, was the reason I passed on a manual transmission and purchased my first automatic automobile... This was back before cars came with cup holders.
Ah yes......those were dark times. But at least we had ashtrays.
 
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Originally Posted by rjg883c
It also holds you in the lean at speed around a turn. It is interesting to be going fast around a left turn and see the handlebar is turned, very slightly, to the right.
Countersteering is used to initiate a lean. It isn't necessary to maintain said lean. Actually a slight steering correction (in the same direction as the turn) is used to decrease/change the lean back to upright or to cease add'l lean.

If your handlebars are "turned slightly right" during a left lean, then your rear tire is either sliding or crabbing.
 
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Originally Posted by NORTY FLATZ
Countersteering is used to initiate a lean. It isn't necessary to maintain said lean. Actually a slight steering correction (in the same direction as the turn) is used to decrease/change the lean back to upright or to cease add'l lean.

If your handlebars are "turned slightly right" during a left lean, then your rear tire is either sliding or crabbing.

Just here to stir the pot....

One could argue counter steering is used to maintain your angle because you need to keep pressure on the left handle bar during your left turn to maintain the angle...if you let up on the pressure your bike is straightening up. Assuming perfect conditions, continuous throttle, smooth flat road etc...

Basically science lab conditions. Not real life.

For the record, you amateurs need to get one of those party helmets with the two beer bottles strapped to the side. That way you dont have to worry about counter stirring with one hand!
 
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Too complicated. All you need to do is simply follow that green line thru every curve.
 
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Originally Posted by Brewmany
Too complicated. All you need to do is simply follow that green line thru every curve.
I have tried that but even at very slow speeds by the time the street crew finishes painting it I am through the curve.
 
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Originally Posted by BTLorys

For the record, you amateurs need to get one of those party helmets with the two beer bottles strapped to the side. That way you dont have to worry about counter stirring with one hand!
Otherwise known as "training wheels" to us experts.
 
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Originally Posted by nevada72
Otherwise known as "training wheels" to us experts.
Have you considered keeping the training wheels while simultaneously balancing a drink in one hand? That way you would maximize consumption while exhibiting your expert abilities? Best of both worlds. That said, I can understand how training wheels would still embarrass a true professional.
 
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The training wheels may be a good suggestion but earlier in the thread didn't someone question how to steer a trike?
 
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Originally Posted by NORTY FLATZ
Countersteering is used to initiate a lean. It isn't necessary to maintain said lean. Actually a slight steering correction (in the same direction as the turn) is used to decrease/change the lean back to upright or to cease add'l lean.

If your handlebars are "turned slightly right" during a left lean, then your rear tire is either sliding or crabbing.
Yes, but what angle is best, how many degrees of separation, and what kind of bourbon do I use?
 


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