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Old 11-15-2017, 12:03 PM
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A trike is not the same animal. A trike is like a car with handlebars. Apples and oranges.

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Originally Posted by nevada72
You guys make me laugh. You think you have the skills to manage a cocktail umbrella?? I'll bet you can't even deal with a toothpick in an olive let alone possess umbrella skills. Have you even had any training? At all?? And you think you can speak with authority on this topic?

Bunch of internet wannabees.
Agreed.

We obviously need a counter-drinking thread, before somebody gets hurt.

Off to start one...
 

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Originally Posted by nevada72
Counter steering is never more critical than when drinking. But because you are holding a glass in your hand (which hand depends on whether or not you have cruise control
You jest, but wanting a hand free to hold my beer, was the reason I passed on a manual transmission and purchased my first automatic automobile... This was back before cars came with cup holders.
 

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Originally Posted by LudemJo
A trike is not the same animal. A trike is like a car with handlebars. Apples and oranges.

John
Read my profile dude!! I have, and always have had and ridden two wheelers. And did both Street and Velodrome bicycle racing!! Try negotiating a downhill tight mountain turn, on a bicyckecwith a 2" contact patch, at 50 MPH...without countersteering. There's no way you can lean the bike enough to negotiate thecturn without countersteering.

Also, try doing a track stand on a bike. So, that if you fall, it won't be on your Harley.. come to a slow stop. Hold on the brakes, and balance without putting your feet down. As you are learning, you will be wiggling the bars back and forth. You'll be wiglingbthe bars in the direction you need to counteract the wrong lean angle. And oh yeah, since you are not moving. The bars aren't turning you.

Countersteering 101...
 

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Old 11-15-2017, 12:28 PM
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I tried this on a trike and ran in the ditch.
 
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If you tie enough of them together they make a great drag chute for braking!
but be careful. there is a fine line between the drag chute for braking and voiding your warranty!
 
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Originally Posted by TriGeezer
Yup, IMHO everyone countersteers. Try this.
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Aha!! Did you notice your right hand went forward, without forcing if too? You just countersteered without knowing it.
Maybe true, but I can tell you that when I learned about counter steering, and then did it intentionally: I was amazed at how the bike leaned over, how sharply I could turn it at speed and how stable it was doing that.

It may be instinctive, but it works much better when it is done intentionally; no comparison really.
 
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Originally Posted by hairymoth
Maybe true, but I can tell you that when I learned about counter steering, and then did it intentionally: I was amazed at how the bike leaned over, how sharply I could turn it at speed and how stable it was doing that.

It may be instinctive, but it works much better when it is done intentionally; no comparison really.
I agree. My point is that even those that don't think they are countersteering, actually are countersteering.
 
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My motorcycle experience started on mini bikes and dirt riding. I learned really early how to get out of slides, recovering from a rear wheel break away, and bike characteristics in mud, rain, snow, and wet grass.
That early on experience has saved my butt several times on road bikes and I use it today when going deep into corners and throwing the geometry of my bike to get around a potential hazard.
 
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Originally Posted by TriGeezer
Read my profile dude!! I have, and always have had and ridden two wheelers. And did both Street and Velodrome bicycle racing!! Try negotiating a downhill tight mountain turn, on a bicyckecwith a 2" contact patch, at 50 MPH...without countersteering. There's no way you can lean the bike enough to negotiate thecturn without countersteering.

Also, try doing a track stand on a bike. So, that if you fall, it won't be on your Harley.. come to a slow stop. Hold on the brakes, and balance without putting your feet down. As you are learning, you will be wiggling the bars back and forth. You'll be wiglingbthe bars in the direction you need to counteract the wrong lean angle. And oh yeah, since you are not moving. The bars aren't turning you.

Countersteering 101...
Yes, but can you do that with a cocktail in one hand? No spillage allowed!
 


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