SO PISSED at Harley right now....
#81
09-21-2017, 01:58 PM
Yes. Joe at Xtemediminsion painted my tourpak to match my bike. The indigo ink metallic from HD has a purple tint to it when viewed from the side in the direct sunlight. My TP has a black tint when viewed from the side. But straight on it looks great. More than likely no one would notice if they didn’t happen to be studying it in the sun. My point being as good as Joe is and the high cost of his work, it’s still not as easy to match some of the CVO paint as many would like to believe. Just gotta be prepared to accept that going in.
#82
09-21-2017, 02:07 PM
Outstanding HDF Member
I thought I was done with this thread till I read this. Really, this is your argument?
GM, Ford, etc. really only paint from the factory and not at the dealers to the best of my knowledge but have NEVER told a body shop that they couldn't paint an aftermarket fender or bumper (often required by less than stellar insurance companies) a genuine GM or Ford or etc color. PLEASE if anyone has ever had a car company refuse to allow a body shop the right to paint a part of a car a factory color, let me know, I'd LOVE to hear the story!
GM, Ford, etc. really only paint from the factory and not at the dealers to the best of my knowledge but have NEVER told a body shop that they couldn't paint an aftermarket fender or bumper (often required by less than stellar insurance companies) a genuine GM or Ford or etc color. PLEASE if anyone has ever had a car company refuse to allow a body shop the right to paint a part of a car a factory color, let me know, I'd LOVE to hear the story!
#83
09-21-2017, 02:29 PM
If you remove all the painted CVO parts off and any specialty items (emblems), what you have left can be ordered everyday thru your dealer out of the catelog and not even have to give your name or VIN. So when HD sells only so many CVOs that have custom paint and charge a good amount for that feature, they have every right to protect their customers investment.
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#85
09-21-2017, 02:52 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
I know Gunslinger as they are just 10 miles up the road from me. Gunslingers use to paint custom bikes but now has an exclusive agreement with HD to paint all of their CVO tins.
They are running 3 shifts 7 days a week to keep up with demand
If you can work out something under the table with Gunslingers, I'd be happy to have you ship it to me & I'll run it over there in person
They are running 3 shifts 7 days a week to keep up with demand
If you can work out something under the table with Gunslingers, I'd be happy to have you ship it to me & I'll run it over there in person
#87
09-21-2017, 04:55 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
Close yes but not always right on even with the right code. Being in the restoration business I can say for a fact that the camera that scans for a code gets it right sometimes, mainly a solid colour but not a metallic. A reputable body shop (even the best) can't perform magic and what one person sees as a match Ill see as wrong a mile away because its my business. We're repainting an original paint car now because we can't get a match on painting one quarter on one side and a door and fender on the other due to an unfortunate mishap at the owners house. We can get a match to the original single stage if we paint the repaired panels in 2 stage but can't get a match with the original process. Customer doesn't want base-clear here and single stage there, I don't blame him so it gets a full repaint in single stage like original. At least it'll be all one colour.
Another factor is how many coats of base are applied? You can see the primer through the paint if you know what you're actually seeing and primer colour is often used to alter the finished product you think is paint colour. If you use complete hiding as your method of paint application which could be 5 coats of base vs 2 then the end result is different with the same product, comes down to the painter and material thickness plus choice of primer. My new F150 has .004" of material over the aluminum which I measured with a digital gauge, that includes primer! My original paint dodge prior to that had .007" which was typical on most cars but .004" is crazy thin but imagine how much ford is saving on paint cost.
Another factor is how many coats of base are applied? You can see the primer through the paint if you know what you're actually seeing and primer colour is often used to alter the finished product you think is paint colour. If you use complete hiding as your method of paint application which could be 5 coats of base vs 2 then the end result is different with the same product, comes down to the painter and material thickness plus choice of primer. My new F150 has .004" of material over the aluminum which I measured with a digital gauge, that includes primer! My original paint dodge prior to that had .007" which was typical on most cars but .004" is crazy thin but imagine how much ford is saving on paint cost.
#89
09-22-2017, 06:19 AM
Club Member
Maybe but Im not sure what his bike looks like. If there's a fairing right near it. I don't even know what colour his bike is (he might've mentioned it). Like anything else today, painting is no longer simple and the formula's keep changing as the government introduces new emission requirements, health and safety safety requirements, bans specific ingredients and so on. So as time goes on it'll make paint matching more difficult in my opinion.
#90
09-22-2017, 12:26 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
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