Inviting someone to ride who doesn't ride over 45mph.
#31
10-15-2016, 08:36 AM
#32
10-15-2016, 08:57 AM
The speed limits on the ride are mostly 55mph and a lot of your 4 wheel vehicles will be running 60+mph.
I'm the rider who will ride the speed limit but doesn't mind going 5mph over if a faster rider is with me.
It's going to hurt his feelings but I bought my bike to ride it like I want to.
I'm the rider who will ride the speed limit but doesn't mind going 5mph over if a faster rider is with me.
It's going to hurt his feelings but I bought my bike to ride it like I want to.
The individuals did not want to take expressways and wanted to avoid traffic.
It was usually someone that presented a concern regarding their capabilities, so i just split off from the group with the individual and met the group at the destination.
I would change the route plan to all back roads and made it a scenic relaxed ride each time.
It did take a small amount of effort to think ahead, but it was always an enjoyable ride.
The situation did not ruin my day.
I would imagine it would be easier in your case since you know the person and care about them.
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Bama Lee (09-18-2019)
#33
10-15-2016, 09:11 AM
I have been met with a similar situation a few times that limited the ride speed to 45 mph.
The individuals did not want to take expressways and wanted to avoid traffic.
It was usually someone that presented a concern regarding their capabilities, so i just split off from the group with the individual and met the group at the destination.
I would change the route plan to all back roads and made it a scenic relaxed ride each time.
It did take a small amount of effort to think ahead, but it was always an enjoyable ride.
The situation did not ruin my day.
I would imagine it would be easier in your case since you know the person and care about them.
The individuals did not want to take expressways and wanted to avoid traffic.
It was usually someone that presented a concern regarding their capabilities, so i just split off from the group with the individual and met the group at the destination.
I would change the route plan to all back roads and made it a scenic relaxed ride each time.
It did take a small amount of effort to think ahead, but it was always an enjoyable ride.
The situation did not ruin my day.
I would imagine it would be easier in your case since you know the person and care about them.
If they don't want to ride on the highway, then DON'T TAKE THEM. When they are ready they will know. No peer pressure to ride on the highways, ever.
#34
10-15-2016, 09:34 AM
#35
10-15-2016, 09:40 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
#36
10-15-2016, 09:46 AM
Wrong. They should be riding, but in their comfort zone. When they are ready they will go faster. They decide, not you and you should not exert any peer pressure.
Last edited by MikerR1; 10-15-2016 at 09:48 AM.
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#37
10-15-2016, 10:14 AM
Road Master
Quite often we will have riders that either have a skill set above or below the average skill of the group. We will usually break up into 2 or more groups and then just meet either at the next rest stop or at the destination. The big thing is you don't want anyone riding out side their comfort zone! There maybe some other riders in your group who would not mind riding at 45 mph with your relative.
#38
10-15-2016, 10:34 AM
Grand HDF Member
Bone, PB and Ron all said it way better than I did. Especially the part about how much riding with better or faster riders taught most of us a lot over the years.
i went through some of this when my wife started riding in '09, and our oldest son last year. she now rides like a pro - including a few track days on her Ducati, and my son is coming along.
Family makes it trickier, but be honest with him for both your sake. Maybe he doesn't expect you to match his speed? Maybe you're feeling responsible for him more than he realizes or expects. Him wanting to ride with you sounds like a nice thing otherwise. Good luck working it out.
i went through some of this when my wife started riding in '09, and our oldest son last year. she now rides like a pro - including a few track days on her Ducati, and my son is coming along.
Family makes it trickier, but be honest with him for both your sake. Maybe he doesn't expect you to match his speed? Maybe you're feeling responsible for him more than he realizes or expects. Him wanting to ride with you sounds like a nice thing otherwise. Good luck working it out.
Last edited by Thingfish; 10-15-2016 at 10:38 AM.
#39
10-15-2016, 10:55 AM
Tourer
I ride alone a lot and enjoy it, especially long rides, but I also ride with different friends who all have different styles and comfort zones. On those rides I accept that for the pleasure of their company I'm going to adjust to their needs and limitations. Some have none, some have several. If I felt their limitations were unsafe or a bad fit for me personally I would draw the line and skip the ride.
If the ride is beyond their skill we plan a different ride.
If the upcoming 100 mile ride isn't safe for them, you should tell them. You're not being a jerk. You're looking out for their wellbeing.
Assuming your relative's style is not going to change anytime soon, maybe you can set aside some ride time to spend with this relative on roads that meet his limitations, but still gives you a chance to ride and spend time together that isn't a road hazard.
Hopefully his style will evolve over time.
If the ride is beyond their skill we plan a different ride.
If the upcoming 100 mile ride isn't safe for them, you should tell them. You're not being a jerk. You're looking out for their wellbeing.
Assuming your relative's style is not going to change anytime soon, maybe you can set aside some ride time to spend with this relative on roads that meet his limitations, but still gives you a chance to ride and spend time together that isn't a road hazard.
Hopefully his style will evolve over time.
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Thingfish (10-16-2016)
#40
10-15-2016, 11:28 AM
I rode with a guy like that one time and never rode with him again. He and I are old retired guys. Worst part was he was in bad health, had cancer several times and several heart attacks. He told me his doctor said he had 30 seconds or less to get his bike stopped if he had another heart attack. He almost got hit from behind by an 18 wheeler when we were riding on the interstate. I kept in front of him for fear of him going down from a heart attack. Once was enough and I haven't seen him since.
On the opposite end I one rode with another old guy that rode too fast and reckless. Every curve he had to take at 20-30 mph over the speed limit and it was two lane crappy roads, on straight aways it was the same. He never enjoyed the scenery he just wanted to ride like a bat out of hell.
Never seems to be a happy medium so I mostly ride alone.
On the opposite end I one rode with another old guy that rode too fast and reckless. Every curve he had to take at 20-30 mph over the speed limit and it was two lane crappy roads, on straight aways it was the same. He never enjoyed the scenery he just wanted to ride like a bat out of hell.
Never seems to be a happy medium so I mostly ride alone.