Inviting someone to ride who doesn't ride over 45mph.
#121
10-17-2016, 03:34 PM
There is no hard number under the speed limit that constitutes impeding. It's up to the discretion of the LEO writing the stub.
Let's take that timid 45 mph subject "rider" in this thread. Two lane highway, one lane in each direction. Speed limit is 65 and douche rider is at 45. He has 15 angry cars stacked up behind and none can pass due to a double yellow. Timid rider won't use the shoulder to pull off to let faster traffic by. Douche rider will get a stub for impeding and it will stand up in court. Multi-lane highways? Douche rider better be in the far right lane, probably the most dangerous lane to ride in.
BTW, you can also get stubbed for riding too fast for conditions. The speed limit might be 70 but 35 might be the maximum safe speed due to snow, ice, fog, rain.
The maximum safe speed when traffic is stopped is 0.You rearend a stopped vehicle at 30, you will get stubbed for driving too fast even though the limit is 65.
Let's take that timid 45 mph subject "rider" in this thread. Two lane highway, one lane in each direction. Speed limit is 65 and douche rider is at 45. He has 15 angry cars stacked up behind and none can pass due to a double yellow. Timid rider won't use the shoulder to pull off to let faster traffic by. Douche rider will get a stub for impeding and it will stand up in court. Multi-lane highways? Douche rider better be in the far right lane, probably the most dangerous lane to ride in.
BTW, you can also get stubbed for riding too fast for conditions. The speed limit might be 70 but 35 might be the maximum safe speed due to snow, ice, fog, rain.
The maximum safe speed when traffic is stopped is 0.You rearend a stopped vehicle at 30, you will get stubbed for driving too fast even though the limit is 65.
Yeah in another post I stated that the law you quoted gives much discretion to the LEO.
If you are an LEO, which I think so, you know that each state and jurisdiction is different. In the several jurisdictions I have worked, the first scenario given would be pretty shaky as far as prosecution. I don't know your jurisdiction so I can't say but I do know the one's I've worked and you would have a hard time justifying a ticket in that scenario for a multitude of reasons. In my opinion it may be easier to cite someone in your jurisdiction for the scenario given but I'm would be very surprised if successfully prosecuting it would be as easy as you say it would. Not trying to be argumentative, but I do have a slightly different opinion.
And yes I know all about the maximum speed limits and that most posted speed limits are under "ideal" conditions and that you can cite someone for "speed greater than safe" or something similar when conditions are not "ideal" even though they are going under the posted limit.
As far as your last scenario I guess that would be somewhat applicable in any jurisdiction but in most jurisdictions (at least the ones I've worked) you could use state driving laws to more appropriately cite the driver for a rear end accident if you so decided to.
#122
10-17-2016, 04:23 PM
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#124
09-17-2019, 09:53 PM
#125
09-17-2019, 09:55 PM
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I have a problem. I have a relative who doesn't ride over 45mph. I have neglected inviting this relative on rides because honestly he takes the fun out of my own riding.
This relative bought a bike a couple months after I did because he wanted to ride with me. But it's been 6 months and he has already expressed he won't be riding any faster. We have a 100 mile trip planned for tomorrow and someone else invited him. I'm thinking about not going because I hate slowing other people down because one person out of our group will not run the speed limit.
I love this man but if you can't ride at least the speed limit then your *** doesn't need to be on 2 wheels.
I'm so sick of this. What am I supposed to do?
This relative bought a bike a couple months after I did because he wanted to ride with me. But it's been 6 months and he has already expressed he won't be riding any faster. We have a 100 mile trip planned for tomorrow and someone else invited him. I'm thinking about not going because I hate slowing other people down because one person out of our group will not run the speed limit.
I love this man but if you can't ride at least the speed limit then your *** doesn't need to be on 2 wheels.
I'm so sick of this. What am I supposed to do?
Last edited by hog95023; 09-17-2019 at 09:59 PM.
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#126
09-17-2019, 10:14 PM
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#127
09-17-2019, 11:01 PM
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#128
09-18-2019, 06:18 AM
I had a friend like that......trailered his bike 1000 miles for a visit. Up in the AM to ride, 5 minutes into it, I see him turning around. He went to back to the house. Said there was something wrong with the bike, and asked me to ride it. I rode the stuffing out of it, nothing wrong but the rider, he was afraid of it. He sold it a month later
#129
09-18-2019, 06:27 AM
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09-18-2019, 06:45 AM
