So the guy at the top of this page is not counter-steering? He's turning into a slide? Wonder why they put that pic there when they are discussing counter-steering. BTW We have the discussed video below.
Most of the argument here is simply based on the definition of counter-steer.. It seems that everyone has their own..
I know you directed this response to keith. He is not going to answer you because he can't answer it without admitting he is wrong, something he will never do.
I know you directed this response to keith. He is not going to answer you because he can't answer it without admitting he is wrong, something he will never do.
No, I am not going to answer it because I am not interested in quibbling over semantics; and I would thank you to not speak for me.
I am equally convinced that you are one of the ones who is mistaking pressure required to maintain a constant lean with counter-steering.
Perhaps our differences are semantical? It does take pressure to turn/hold the handlebar/front wheel left of straight to counteract the centrifugal force, attempting to push a scooter left, during a right turn. And the opposite for a left turn. A front wheel actually turning, not momentarily but for the duration of a curve, in the opposite direction of the curve is what some of us consider 'counter-steering'. Steer left while turning right, steer right while going left.
See the 'counter' there?
Seriously Mike, go for a ride a try it out for yourself. Don't just rely on books, or posts you agree with, but actually live/experience things.