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#961

10-24-2016 | 12:33 PM

keith_stepp

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Originally Posted by MikerR1

I am saying that your answer shows a definite lack of attention to detail.

Did gravity have something to do with it or not?

#962

10-24-2016 | 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bwoltz

http://www.engineeringkatta.com/blog...to-turn-right/

So the guy at the top of this page is not counter-steering? He's turning into a slide? Wonder why they put that pic there when they are discussing counter-steering. BTW We have the discussed video below.

Most of the argument here is simply based on the definition of counter-steer.. It seems that everyone has their own..

I know you directed this response to keith. He is not going to answer you because he can't answer it without admitting he is wrong, something he will never do.

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10-24-2016 | 01:06 PM

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I know you directed this response to keith. He is not going to answer you because he can't answer it without admitting he is wrong, something he will never do.

No, I am not going to answer it because I am not interested in quibbling over semantics; and I would thank you to not speak for me.

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10-24-2016 | 01:09 PM

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No, I am not going to answer it because I am not interested in quibbling over semantics; and I would thank you to not speak for me.

He is not going to answer it. At least I got him to admit that.

And he is not going to admit that he is wrong.

Here is a link to the post where he said it was not counter-steering
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/gener...l#post15620705

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#965

10-24-2016 | 01:11 PM

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I told you bWoltz, he is not going to answer it. At least I got him to admit that.

Your momma must be proud.

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10-24-2016 | 01:20 PM

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#967

10-24-2016 | 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy Rob

Hey...Isn't that counterbraking?
The Op should try that, with a bigger tree.

#968

10-24-2016 | 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by IdahoHacker

Video Link deleted.....

Nicely Done! The 4:00 mark pretty much describes this thread- getting hit on the head lessons............................

#969

10-24-2016 | 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikerR1

I am equally convinced that you are one of the ones who is mistaking pressure required to maintain a constant lean with counter-steering.

Perhaps our differences are semantical? It does take pressure to turn/hold the handlebar/front wheel left of straight to counteract the centrifugal force, attempting to push a scooter left, during a right turn. And the opposite for a left turn. A front wheel actually turning, not momentarily but for the duration of a curve, in the opposite direction of the curve is what some of us consider 'counter-steering'. Steer left while turning right, steer right while going left.

See the 'counter' there?

Seriously Mike, go for a ride a try it out for yourself. Don't just rely on books, or posts you agree with, but actually live/experience things.

Last edited by rjg883c; 10-24-2016 at 03:10 PM.