Counter-steering
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10-24-2016 | 11:02 AM
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No, I am not confused, I have been saying consistently, that counter-steering is used to change the lean angle.
If you think about what you just said, that counter-steering creates(changes) lean, then it should be obvious to you that you cannot counter-steer continuously or you will lean yourself right into the ground.
If you think about what you just said, that counter-steering creates(changes) lean, then it should be obvious to you that you cannot counter-steer continuously or you will lean yourself right into the ground.
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10-24-2016 | 11:04 AM
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To be fair, this thread is not about counter-steering as you might surmise from the thread title. It is actually about MikerR1 trying to convince everyone on this board that they do not know what counter-steering is, based on his own flawed understanding of a Wikipedia article on the subject. If you came to this thread looking to gain some understanding about what counter-steering is, you can find some pretty good info, but it is buried in 90 pages of *****.
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10-24-2016 | 11:07 AM
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That’s right, nothing. Don’t react. Nine times out of 10, the bike will simply correct itself. If you allow it to. If you close the throttle too quickly, you run the risk of the rear tire regaining traction too quickly, potentially causing a high-side while also shifting the motorcycle’s weight balance forwards, exacerbating the slide itself. If you counter-steer too much, you risk over-correction. Believe it or not, but a bike’s trail will actually cause it to naturally steer into a slide for you. And if you hit the brakes? Well, applying the front brake would likely cause the sliding rear to overtake the front wheel and applying the rear would likely lock that tire, cutting the gyroscopic stability it lends the machine and thereby increasing the odds the bike will end up on the ground.
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10-24-2016 | 11:13 AM
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No, it is not. BTW, your quote confirms what I said: "turning into a slide".
Your opinion on the subject has zero value.
And I am equally convinced that you are one of the ones who is mistaking pressure required to maintain a constant lean with counter-steering.
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10-24-2016 | 11:14 AM
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Yes it is counter-steering. If you keep making statements like you just made your opinion is going to have zero value as well.
I did not give you my opinion. I quoted an article which I am sure you did not read. I am going to give you the quote again.
https://rideapart.com/articles/save-motorcycle-slide
I did not give you my opinion. I quoted an article which I am sure you did not read. I am going to give you the quote again.
That’s right, nothing. Don’t react. Nine times out of 10, the bike will simply correct itself. If you allow it to. If you close the throttle too quickly, you run the risk of the rear tire regaining traction too quickly, potentially causing a high-side while also shifting the motorcycle’s weight balance forwards, exacerbating the slide itself. If you counter-steer too much, you risk over-correction. Believe it or not, but a bike’s trail will actually cause it to naturally steer into a slide for you. And if you hit the brakes? Well, applying the front brake would likely cause the sliding rear to overtake the front wheel and applying the rear would likely lock that tire, cutting the gyroscopic stability it lends the machine and thereby increasing the odds the bike will end up on the ground.
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10-24-2016 | 11:17 AM
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10-24-2016 | 11:21 AM
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Here is the quote for the third time...
https://rideapart.com/articles/save-motorcycle-slide
That’s right, nothing. Don’t react. Nine times out of 10, the bike will simply correct itself. If you allow it to. If you close the throttle too quickly, you run the risk of the rear tire regaining traction too quickly, potentially causing a high-side while also shifting the motorcycle’s weight balance forwards, exacerbating the slide itself. If you counter-steer too much, you risk over-correction. Believe it or not, but a bike’s trail will actually cause it to naturally steer into a slide for you. And if you hit the brakes? Well, applying the front brake would likely cause the sliding rear to overtake the front wheel and applying the rear would likely lock that tire, cutting the gyroscopic stability it lends the machine and thereby increasing the odds the bike will end up on the ground.