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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gotnspikes
Would you be so inclined to say that can be described as "pushing the inside bar forward"?
No. Because there is no inside bar yet because you have not leaned yet.
 
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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gotnspikes
Would you be so inclined to say that can be described as "pushing the inside bar forward"?
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No. Because there is no inside bar yet because you have not leaned yet.

Ok, would you be inclined to say this can be described as "pushing the intended inside bar forward"?
 
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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gotnspikes
Ok, would you be inclined to say this can be described as "pushing the intended inside bar forward"?
Please, get on with your proposal.
 

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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:23 PM
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People like the OP vote, procreate, etc. Scary.
 
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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MikerR1
Just get on with your proposal and please stop being so coy.
Then why don't you stop being so obtuse? You know exactly what he's talking about, yet you continue to play dumb.
 

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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarfish
If you live in the southern hemisphere, do you have to countersteer the other direction?


Yes, part of counter steering correctly is taking into account the Coreolis effect.
 
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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by martinj
Does this have something to do with the Coriolis Effect?


Yes, exactly
 
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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:42 PM
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I bet the honey badger would do something about this counter steering
 
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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:50 PM
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People like the OP vote, procreate, etc. Scary.
Well, vote for sure... The only procreation attempt is most likely his action based on the common suggestion that he attempt to mate with himself.
 
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Old 10-21-2016 | 03:55 PM
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I asked how you do the action of steering torque. You answered:

Originally Posted by MikerR1
What do you mean how you do the action? You push the inside bar forward.
Originally Posted by gotnspikes
MikerR1, how do you do the action to counter-steer?
Originally Posted by MikerR1
I will play along...

If you want to go left you push the left bar forward. The wheel is now pointed to the right, in the direction opposite to the direction you want to go.

If you want to go right you push the right bar forward. The wheel is now pointed to the left, again in the direction opposite to the direction you want to go.
We all know this is the same action. The instance you initiate the counter-steer, this is the same action.

Previously stated by MikerR1, "The diagram executes a momentary counter-steer to the left to initiate the lean and then use the throttle to control the lean during the turn.

So:

  • How long is momentary?
  • do you let off pressure between the time you initiate the counter-steer and apply forward pressure for maintaining steering torque? If not, when does it no longer become counter-steering? If so, you're implying that you push one side forward to initiate a counter-steer maneuver, let off and then again applying pressure to that side to initiate steering torque.
Surely you can see where I'm going and that if you claim that you apply pressure to initiate the counter-steer and maintain that pressure to apply steering torque...all your jabber is over verbal semantics that are subjective and your argumentative opposition to what we're calling the maneuver, is trollish on your part, since you don't openly admit this before now.
 


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