Well guess what, if it is turned, and I just can't see it, then he is counter-steering and trying to increase his lean angle and not just trying to maintain his current lean angle.

 

Accurate.

 

I wonder what it would be like if everyone quoted everyone on the thread...would he see the ignored then? Could you imagine what it would look like if everyone quoted everyone. What a mess that would be. Maybe even a little more than this thread is already.

 

No, it isn't two negatives. It's a part of your statement and my response to that statement, combined by a comma. So feel free to start an argument over my use of English now.


With that said, my understanding of countersteering torque is just fine. Yours isn't. But, then again, I'm only stating what's been stated by many others through sixty some pages of your inane babbling.....

 

I have been waiting for you to show up so I can put you on my list. I forgot your name.

 

I'm wasn't using your jacked up definition of counter-steering...I'm correctly using the term counter-steering to mean maintaining lean angle to navigate the curve. But sure, it is possible he is increasing or decreasing his lean angle. I'm not there watching while in motion.

 

Thats the problem, you have been repeating what others have said. That is called the herd mentality. IF the first guy is wrong, but makes a convincing case, and the herd follows, then the entire herd goes over the cliff. That is what happened here.

 

How about a pic? No one else here seems to have a problem showing off their Harley. How about it. Just for me?

 

No. That is not what counter-steering is. That is steering torque to maintain the current lean angle, which, if measured, would be less than counter-steering torque, or the steering torque to increase the lean angle.