Originally Posted by guitarfish

Mike, the point of the demonstration was to show that one must continue to apply pressure on the bar in a curve to maintain the curve. As you already know, you do your braking before entering the curve. Once in the curve, you maintain or even moderately increase speed. It sounds like you're saying one should slow down in a curve. Are you? That's not a good idea.

One reason for this, which I don't think has been mentioned yet, is weight distribution. When the bike is riding at an even speed on level ground, the weight is distributed between the wheels, right? Now, let's say you suddenly hit the brakes. What just happened? The majority of your weight has been transferred to the front wheel, and therefore you are depending on the front wheel for most of your traction. Traction is key, lose traction, you lose control. When you enter a turn, and then then gradually roll on throttle, you are exerting pressure/downforce on the back tire, which keeps traction on the rear. On many bikes (like mine) the back tire is fatter than the front, which is another reason to do this.

What you saw in my video wasn't some dangerous stunt to be executed only on the track. LOL! Honestly, I would expect some riders to say they curve like that all the time. (It's fun...you should try it). If you think what I did in that video is dangerous, then you really shouldn't ride a motorcycle.

You continue to analyze this like you're in a classroom at a chalkboard. I think you're totally missing the point of riding. Just like you missed the point of the video.

Originally Posted by MikerR1

We are not riding on the track. We are riding on the street with cars, not other motorcycles, and cars coming in the opposite direction at high speeds.

Originally Posted by MikerR1

I have probably locked up my tires more that you have.

Originally Posted by guitarfish

You may have an easier time countersteering if you take the training wheels off.

Originally Posted by keith_stepp

"We"? lol


What happened to "we"?

I seriously doubt it. I learned ride on the dirt trails around my house when I was a kid. Locking up my tires was part of riding, especially the back tire. It is impossible for me to even begin to count how many times I have used a controlled skid to negotiate a trail or manage a descent. On the road, locking up your tire can get you a ride in an ambulance.

Originally Posted by MikerR1

guitarfish, I said it was dangerous, because it is dangerous. You said you were going 50mph. You did not slow down enough, that is why you ended up near the yellow line. (or you did not lean enough), right?

Originally Posted by MikerR1

I locked my wheels up on a WideGlide.

Originally Posted by guitarfish

Me and a few friends out riding dangerously, getting close to the line, not braking sufficiently before curves, countersteering, and ripping the tags off of matresses. Good stuff starts at 4:30.
https://youtu.be/t2CHZivuquY?t=4m30s