It in fact goes thusly

Once a student sufficiently extracts their head from their *** - what has been offered will begin making sense

Till then

Ghost

 

Lol. Don't hold your breath on this one.....

 

On my ride home yesterday...

 

Thanks for making that video.

Can you please tell me how fast you were going when you were taking the turn at the start of your video at the time I have fast forwarded to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlYt...utu.be#t=3m20s

 

Around 50mph.

 

Perty country.

 

Please do not misinterpret what I am going to say. I really do appreciate your video.

You came really close to the yellow line at that point in your turn.

I have absolutely no doubt in the world that it is FUN to take a turn that way, but it is not safe, in my opinion, to take a turn that way on the street. (Unless it is early Sunday morning and no traffic!) That way of taking the turn, by not reducing your speed and having a constant countersteer through the turn is for the track.

There are at least two ways (three if you use keiths method) to take a curve...

1) Not reduce your speed and apply enough continuous pressure to the inside bar(continuous counter-steer) to keep the bike in your lane.

2)Reduce your speed before the turn, momentary counter-steer and then accelerate through the curve. (Look, Lean and Roll)

The second way is the way I believe the MSF teaches it. The second way is for the street. The first way is for the track.

The problem that I have been trying to figure out, and I believe I have figured out (with your help and others) is how do I take these very gently curves on the highway, at highway speeds, without slowing down?

The curves on the highway are gentle enough that if I slow down, to say 50 mph, I can take the curve basically without any counter-steer at all. But at highway speeds (70-75mph) I will have to apply a constant countersteer, ie. use method 1 above, if I do not want to slow down to take that curve. And that is what I am going to do. There is only one place I can practice that, and that is on the highway, at highway speeds. And this Saturday morning, I will go and do it.

 

I know the road well, I ride it frequently. I purposely took the turn faster than normal to illustrate the point about pressing on the bar.

 

lol. Dude. We are so gonna read about you in the papers. Nice knowin' ya. Be sure to leave an address for where people can send the flowers.

 

I said basically without. I am hardly leaning at all. I just press DOWN, not forward, on the handlebar.

If you go back and read the first post that started this thread you will find that the way I have been counter-steering is by pressing down on my handlebars, not forward. You can tip the bike that way and once tipped you can shift your weight and lean it enough. But I had to slow down to 50mph to do it.