Counter-steering is not intuitive. It is actually, counter-intuitive.

 

Yes, you are. That video only explains part of what is going on.

 

You need to watch the video. The video makes it very clear that for every corner entry speed there is a naturally stable angle of lean. If is absolutely pure physics. The relationship is the faster you go, the greater the required angle of lean. (Again notice the keyword stable)

If you disagree with that then you need to support your statement with some evidence.

The problem, of course, is to figure out what that angle of lean is given your speed. Most of us, (myself included) slow down before we enter the turn, which implies that we are opting for a lesser angle of lean. The slower you go, the less you have to lean. This is opposite from what Red told you. He told you that the faster you go the less you have to lean, which is not correct.

 

I use automotive synthetic 15w50 oil. There I said it...

 

I learned to ride a motorcycle without the benefit of any instruction; just trial and error. When I took my MSF course and the instructor was trying to explain how to counter-steer, I thought he was insane. Then, I went home and tested his theory and I was convinced at that point he was indeed insane; because, I sure didn't push on my bars to turn, I leaned. Well, I now know that leaning didn't do much of anything and this is how new riders end up in ditches: they think leaning will get the job done. At slow speeds, yes. But not a fast speeds.

On closer examination, what I noticed was that when I leaned I was unintentionally pulling the opposite bar and getting the exact same result as pushing. Once I mastered counter steering, it is now a much simpler thing and requires much less effort. I sit straight up in my seat and gently push to steer. It's easy.

 

I have no problem with the video.

 

Well, you probably have not mastered counter-steering so do not think that. We counter-steer to create the lean angle. There is a reason we have to talk about this stuff theoretically. I am not going to be entering a curve at 70 mph's anytime soon. And as the video tells us, the lean angle for 70mph entry is larger than for a 45mph entry. Do you know what is that lean angle? Do you think your going to get it right the first time you try it? No.

 

Can I have your used oil to put in my lawnmower?

 

Stumbled upon this by accident.(no pun intended)
Modeling Motorcycle Counter-Steering

https://books.google.com/books?id=z2...rogram&f=false

 

Yes. I have. Counter-steering is easy.

I do it frequently. That should tell you something right there.

I have gotten it right every time I've tried it on a motorcycle.