Notice the front wheel. Notice where he is looking. My question is...Is he countersteering at this point? (I don't know the answer but I do not think he is)
Notice the front wheel. Notice where he is looking. My question is...Is he countersteering at this point? (I don't know the answer but I do not think he is)
Absolutely.
Originally Posted by MikerR1
If he turned the front wheel slightly to his right, right now, what would happen? His lean angle would increase,correct?
If he "turned" right, the bike and lean angle would go left.
Originally Posted by MikerR1
And if he turned the front wheel slightly to his left, right now, what would happen? His lean angle would start to decrease (thie bike would try to stand up), correct?
If he "turned" left (more left), he would turn sharper and increase lean angle.
If he let go of the bars, the bike would stand up and go straight.
Originally Posted by MikerR1
So what he must be doing, is trying to keep his lean angle constant, and slightly turning the front wheel right and left, to maintain the lean angle? This is a question. I have never done this and I can promise you I will never, intentionally do this!
He is basically pushing the right bar, pulling on the left bar, and leaning way into it. The more "push and/or pull", the sharper the turn will be. His body location is decreasing lean angle along with constant control input.
A bike is a single track vehicle. In order for it to turn, the rear wheel needs to track inside of the front wheel. You do this by turning the other direction with constant input. Like when you steer a car, you hold the wheel turned until the turn is completed. Only on a bike, you're turning the other way. If you were to put training wheels on your bike, there would be no counter steering. Maybe look into that.
I find it hard to believe that you haven't figured this out after 232 posts in this thread. If you are trolling, then you've done an excellent job.
If he "turned" right, the bike and lean angle would go left.
If he "turned" left (more left), he would turn sharper and increase lean angle.
If he let go of the bars, the bike would stand up and go straight.
He is basically pushing the right bar, pulling on the left bar, and leaning way into it. The more "push and/or pull", the sharper the turn will be. His body location is decreasing lean angle along with constant control input.
A bike is a single track vehicle. In order for it to turn, the rear wheel needs to track inside of the front wheel. You do this by turning the other direction with constant input. Like when you steer a car, you hold the wheel turned until the turn is completed. Only on a bike, you're turning the other way. If you were to put training wheels on your bike, there would be no counter steering. Maybe look into that.
I find it hard to believe that you haven't figured this out after 232 posts in this thread. If you are trolling, then you've done an excellent job.
If he is countersteering why isn't the front wheel pointing slightly to our right?
You envision counter steering when the bike is vertical. Once a two wheel vehicle is leaned by counter steering, counter steering is used to keep the bike on the path you want. Yes, the wheel is turned towards the lean, but not as much as if you were making the same turn (steering) in a 4 wheeled vehicle. That photo clearly shows counter steering at it's best. Weight shift is used to make the bike more vertical, allowing for an even greater turns by counter steering.
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. If the driver was countersteering at this moment the front wheel would be turned slightly to our right, not in the direction of the lean.
Countersteering is used to tip the bike in the direction you want to go and create the initial lean from a vertical position.. Unless the curvature of the turn is changing, the countersteer is a "momentary" event. After that the driver shifts his weight, as the picture shows, and the wheel follows the turn.
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. If the driver was countersteering at this moment the front wheel would be turned slightly to our right, not in the direction of the lean.
Countersteering is used to tip the bike in the direction you want to go and create the initial lean from a vertical position.. Unless the curvature of the turn is changing, the countersteer is a "momentary" event. After that the driver shifts his weight, as the picture shows, and the wheel follows the turn.
Wow. Just Wow.
Reminds me of the saying:
"Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It frustrates you and annoys the pig."
10-17-2016 | 12:53 PM
