Counter-steering
#1101
10-25-2016, 05:24 PM
I did not keep it alive. I am not going to let the trolls have a field day. I put too much work into this thread. And even though they won't admit it, I know they learned something. (If they followed along)
#1102
10-25-2016, 05:45 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
Ok.......I'm off the fence. Full on retard. No troll master would be this boring.
I'll bet this dude is a real hoot at parties. He'll corner your wife and drone on about lean angles. I'm guessing there's some halitosis at play.
I'll bet this dude is a real hoot at parties. He'll corner your wife and drone on about lean angles. I'm guessing there's some halitosis at play.
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#1104
10-25-2016, 06:01 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
Hehehe, I love this thread...long live MikerR1!!!!
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#1105
10-25-2016, 06:05 PM
I warned you guys to stop posting on this thread, all you guys that posted after I warned you have just made the list.
Oh CRAP now I am on the list
Oh CRAP now I am on the list
#1108
10-25-2016, 06:15 PM
Bob - I'm betting this is some 12 yr old kid , the only way he'll corner your wife is if she is babysitting him...
#1109
10-25-2016, 06:16 PM
Road Warrior
Thanks gotnspikes. This whole debacle comes down to someone(mikerr1) who is scared to ride a motorcycle until he understands the physics of it. I bet everyone here knows someone who after being explained in a great way, has to ask hypotheticals and turn a simple practice into hell. One friend of mine never held a paint gun in his life... But he would tell my other friend who has painted 30 years he's doing it wrong... He saw it on discovery channel or some **** and is now an expert who never even held a spray gun. Its sad but people like that exist.
If any of you guys were right, what we see in the following video should not be happening...
Watch this video (right after it starts) for the riderless motorcycle. The bike does not stand up, it keeps its lean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V_u...B5lSBaD#t=2m8s
The only theory that was introduced in this thread that explains what we see in this video is the one from the technical article and the one described by bWoltz. The article said that a counter-steer creates a stable lean. That is what we see in this video, a stable lean.
Watch this video (right after it starts) for the riderless motorcycle. The bike does not stand up, it keeps its lean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V_u...B5lSBaD#t=2m8s
The only theory that was introduced in this thread that explains what we see in this video is the one from the technical article and the one described by bWoltz. The article said that a counter-steer creates a stable lean. That is what we see in this video, a stable lean.
It is not counter-steering that is the problem.
The reason we cannot find a stable lean angle is because people naturally are afraid of leaning their motorcycles. Fear of leaning is part of the problem. Plus our bikes will not allow it. For instance the lean angle of my bike is 25°.
http://ridemsta.com/srblog/lean-angle/
The reason we cannot find a stable lean angle is because people naturally are afraid of leaning their motorcycles. Fear of leaning is part of the problem. Plus our bikes will not allow it. For instance the lean angle of my bike is 25°.
http://ridemsta.com/srblog/lean-angle/
Hilarious on so many levels!!!!
Oh, you've got something, buddy.
Last edited by gotnspikes; 10-25-2016 at 06:53 PM.
#1110
10-25-2016, 09:24 PM
Watch this video for at least one minute from its starting position. A motorcycle racer will tell you how he counter-steers his bike in a corner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDeSn_QJ_sI#t=13m30s
"You lift your body and shift you weight to the right, when you do that, you automatically press on your right hand which makes the bike counter-steer, which is making the bike tip over, and once you get down there and into position you stop the counter-steer."
Caution: This method of counter-steering is probably too agressive for the street. It would probably cause the bike to lean way too much at street speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDeSn_QJ_sI#t=13m30s
"You lift your body and shift you weight to the right, when you do that, you automatically press on your right hand which makes the bike counter-steer, which is making the bike tip over, and once you get down there and into position you stop the counter-steer."
Caution: This method of counter-steering is probably too agressive for the street. It would probably cause the bike to lean way too much at street speeds.
Last edited by MikerR1; 10-25-2016 at 09:43 PM.