Counter-steering
#1011
10-25-2016 | 08:12 AM
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10-25-2016 | 08:14 AM
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No you didn't. This is complete BS. You are more likely to roll on more throttle if you were pulling, not pushing. But, truly... it does not require that much effort to counter-steer, so accidentally rolling on/off throttle is highly unlikely.
It is quite obvious that you have never operated a motorcycle.
It is quite obvious that you have never operated a motorcycle.
So you admit that when pushing forward you can get some throttle. You misinterpret a lot of things. I said I got some throttle and you interpreted that to mean I rolled on the throttle.
You are fixated for some reason, you need to get over it.
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10-25-2016 | 08:30 AM
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As far as I am concerned there is only one unresolved issue, and that is whether the front wheel is turned to the outside, inside or inline when negotiating a high speed turn.
Here is a video to start things off.
For best viewing, expand the video to full screen by clicking the square in the bottom right of the youtube viewer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBmL...B5lSBaD#t=0m0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBmL...5lSBaD#t=0m56s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBmL...5lSBaD#t=1m15s
(This is purely academic because I am never going to be doing this).
Here is a video to start things off.
For best viewing, expand the video to full screen by clicking the square in the bottom right of the youtube viewer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBmL...B5lSBaD#t=0m0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBmL...5lSBaD#t=0m56s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBmL...5lSBaD#t=1m15s
(This is purely academic because I am never going to be doing this).
Last edited by MikerR1; 10-25-2016 at 10:21 AM.
#1015
10-25-2016 | 08:35 AM
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I should have said the way I have been implementing counter-steering is not working for me.
Funny thing is, I tried pushing forward on the bars and that was worse, much worse. When pushing the right bar I always got some throttle in the push and I did not like that at all. It is not natural to press forward on the handlebars given my rider position.
I found when riding the other day that I implement counter-steering in many different ways, sometimes I pull the outside bar instead of pushing the inside bar. It all depends on what feels natural at the time.
The best thing that came out of all of this is I am looking further down the road more than I was before and more relaxed on the bike. I feel I understand the physics of what is going on much better which gives me confidence and because of that I trust the bike more. The large sweeper curve problem I had on the highway is solved.
Funny thing is, I tried pushing forward on the bars and that was worse, much worse. When pushing the right bar I always got some throttle in the push and I did not like that at all. It is not natural to press forward on the handlebars given my rider position.
I found when riding the other day that I implement counter-steering in many different ways, sometimes I pull the outside bar instead of pushing the inside bar. It all depends on what feels natural at the time.
The best thing that came out of all of this is I am looking further down the road more than I was before and more relaxed on the bike. I feel I understand the physics of what is going on much better which gives me confidence and because of that I trust the bike more. The large sweeper curve problem I had on the highway is solved.
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10-25-2016 | 08:42 AM
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Mikey - my best advice is to take lessons and lots of them from a qualified instructor and if you still don't get it - sell the bike before you hurt yourself - you're a ticking dangerous time bomb....and please let me know before you ever come up to Colorado to ride so I can make sure I stay off the roads while you're here....
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10-25-2016 | 08:46 AM
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Being ignored by a TROLL - what will become of my life....
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10-25-2016 | 08:47 AM
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I should have said the way I have been implementing counter-steering is not working for me.
Funny thing is, I tried pushing forward on the bars and that was worse, much worse. When pushing the right bar I always got some throttle in the push and I did not like that at all. It is not natural to press forward on the handlebars given my rider position.
I found when riding the other day that I implement counter-steering in many different ways, sometimes I pull the outside bar instead of pushing the inside bar. It all depends on what feels natural at the time.
The best thing that came out of all of this is I am looking further down the road more than I was before and more relaxed on the bike. I feel I understand the physics of what is going on much better which gives me confidence and because of that I trust the bike more. The large sweeper curve problem I had on the highway is solved.
Funny thing is, I tried pushing forward on the bars and that was worse, much worse. When pushing the right bar I always got some throttle in the push and I did not like that at all. It is not natural to press forward on the handlebars given my rider position.
I found when riding the other day that I implement counter-steering in many different ways, sometimes I pull the outside bar instead of pushing the inside bar. It all depends on what feels natural at the time.
The best thing that came out of all of this is I am looking further down the road more than I was before and more relaxed on the bike. I feel I understand the physics of what is going on much better which gives me confidence and because of that I trust the bike more. The large sweeper curve problem I had on the highway is solved.
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10-25-2016 | 08:49 AM
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You might have been right about that all along. Maybe I will try it again, but it will be hard for me to push up at an 18 degree angle given the bars are below my elbows. When I say hard, I mean unnatural.
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10-25-2016 | 09:20 AM
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