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Old 10-12-2016 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FNGonaRK
Do you have him kick on the side of the direction you're turning, or the opposite side?
And at what angle?
 
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Old 10-12-2016 | 09:48 AM
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I can't just leave things alone
I've been watching youtube about this and I found this video very informative. They went the extra mile and put dials and added extra handlebars on the bike to better illustrate what is happening.


Funny thing for me is I was a sponsored MX racer in the 70's (cz). Going around a big sweeping corner we would counter steer to the extreme. Of course we never used the words counter-steer. "Man did you see that rooster tail!", was about all.
 
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Old 10-12-2016 | 10:14 AM
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After almost 100 posts - I hope the OP understands now and adopts the principle of counter-steering...
 
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Old 10-12-2016 | 10:16 AM
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After almost 100 posts - I hope the OP understands now and adopts the principle of counter-steering...
This thread counter steered.
 
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Old 10-12-2016 | 10:17 AM
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Gyroscopic precession doesn't come into play until you are over 20 mph in most cases, counter steering does not work at parking lot speeds.
 

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Old 10-12-2016 | 12:01 PM
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Reading all of the interesting and informative posts here and agree with them.

Funny part is, I keep having the "Weebles Wobble but they dont fall down" toy song in my head now!!!

lol
 
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Old 10-12-2016 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bettingpython
Gyroscopic precession doesn't come into play until you are over 20 mph in most cases, counter steering does not work at parking lot speeds.
Wanna bet? In fact, you can over emphasize the movements and the recovery is exactly the same. Over emphasized.
 
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Old 10-12-2016 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ronaldrwl
I can't just leave things alone
I've been watching youtube about this and I found this video very informative. They went the extra mile and put dials and added extra handlebars on the bike to better illustrate what is happening.


Funny thing for me is I was a sponsored MX racer in the 70's (cz). Going around a big sweeping corner we would counter steer to the extreme. Of course we never used the words counter-steer. "Man did you see that rooster tail!", was about all.
Your name Falta?
 
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Old 10-12-2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTY FLATZ
Wanna bet? In fact, you can over emphasize the movements and the recovery is exactly the same. Over emphasized.
blah blah blah blah, yes it works at low speeds but go teaching new riders to counter steer at low speed and you have people wobbling and falling over. Let me phrase it more appropriately you don't need it to overcome gyroscopic precession at low speeds.
 
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Old 10-12-2016 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bone Doc
I made corn in the microwave tonight.


Did you push the buttons at an 18 degree angle?
 
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