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The Shovels were only 74 cu in.
Incorrect. I had an 80" Shovel in 1980.
 
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Certification documents from the EPA also confirm the two new S models for 2016, rating them at a maximum output of 80.5 hp at 4000 rpm compared to the EPA-rated 76.4 hp at 4000 rpm for the 2015 models with the 1688cc engine.
Really? All the hoopla over 4 hp?? Forget it. Not worth it.
 
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Really? All the hoopla over 4 hp?? Forget it. Not worth it.
The engine probably put out out more but has more EPA crap on it and is running ridiculously lean.

Uncork it and ten see what it will do.
 
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The engine probably put out out more but has more EPA crap on it and is running ridiculously lean.

Uncork it and ten see what it will do.
So you think the 103" isn't hampered by the same stuff? 7 cubic inches isn't going to make that much difference, even uncorked. When they come out with a good, reliable motor around 2,000cc's, then I'll get excited.
 
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Originally Posted by upflying
The Shovels were only 74 cu in.
Why would you even spout off such BS
 
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Why would you even spout off such BS
What BS are you referring to?

Shovelheads were 74" 1966 - 1978 1/2.

80" wasn't standard across the big twin line until 1980. Although was an option in 1979.
 
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So you think the 103" isn't hampered by the same stuff? 7 cubic inches isn't going to make that much difference, even uncorked. When they come out with a good, reliable motor around 2,000cc's, then I'll get excited.
If you are starting with greater displacement from the get go, then you have a greater potential to produce more power.

Look at how many guys with TC88's that increase to 95" or 97" as part of their engine build and end up with great results from only a marginal increase in displacement.

Look at what the CVO bikes make. It's the same engine, with possibly a different state of tune.

None of which affects me of course unless something terrible were to happen and my 95 Heritage Softail Classic gets smashed to smithereens and I need to buy another bike. My intention is for this Evo to last me forever. Everything just seems right with this older bike for me, except of course, the brakes. That hopefully will be taken care of during the wet part of the winter.
 
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What BS are you referring to?
That shovels were "ONLY" 74"
 
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Originally Posted by BUZZARD II
It's really just another marketing stunt by the MoCo to sell more scoots to guys with fat wallets. Yeah, here's the biggest, badass engine and you need it now to be top dog. It's just a high turnover piece for those who trailer to rallies.


If you go and stick a 74 cube AMF era shovelhead into a modern frame that shovel will still put out more power than the frame and suspension can handle. Or at least it will if you ride around mountain turns. When are they going to offer a twin spar aluminum frame, real suspension and **** can that comp sprocket made from used soup cans?
+1 The MOCO is pretty dedicated to separating the posers from their cash. If ya can afford 'em good for you.
The old Shovel runs with and keeps up all day with the newbies on trips no problem.
 

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Some education for a few.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley...velhead_engine
The Shovelhead is an air-cooled, 45 degree, V-twin motorcycle engine manufactured from 1966 to 1985 by Harley-Davidson. Initial models had an engine displacement of 1,208 cc (74 cu in). Roughly halfway through production of the 1978 model year, this was increased to 1,340 cc (82 cu in) for some of Harley's Big Twin bikes.[1] 1340cc, referred to by the company as 80ci., engines were optional on FLH models halfway through 1978 and through all of '79 before becoming standard equipment for FLH models in 1980. These bikes were referred to as FLH-80 Electra Glide II models. FX model bikes continued to be offered with either 1200 or 1340 cc engines till 1981 when 1340cc, also referred to as 80 ci., was made standard across the Big Twin line.
 


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