Need advice - 19 SGS rear shock travel problem when 2-up
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The First thing is: Im short, 5-5 w/ 28 inseam and weigh about 155 lbs.
Purchased my new SGS just a few months ago during Daytona Bike Week, had an H-D Reach seat installed and immediately had the bike lowered 1 by Suspension Technologies. They installed their 11 rear shock and their 1 shorter front suspension. With this setup I can almost flat foot when the road is level. When riding solo this setup is good and with the rear shocks adjusted to a softer setting the ride is fine.
However, now that I have had some time getting used to this new and heavier bike, my Lady and I have started to ride 2-up. She is a bit heavier than I am (trying to be kind) and now our combined weight is closer to 360 lbs. Now, even with the rear 11 shocks set to their stiffest setting, Im getting too much tire rub when going over bumps and wallows.
My question is: Is there a way to limit shock travel so I dont get tire rub?
Ive heard of Bump Stops, but dont know how, or if, they would work for this problem.
I have also seen and read many recommendations for Air Shocks that allow for vertical height adjustment on the fly, so to speak. Seems that, when 2-up and having to raise the bike up to allow for more rear shock travel, this might defeat my ability to reach the ground comfortably when coming to stops.
Thanks in advance for any serious advice you may be able to provide.
Purchased my new SGS just a few months ago during Daytona Bike Week, had an H-D Reach seat installed and immediately had the bike lowered 1 by Suspension Technologies. They installed their 11 rear shock and their 1 shorter front suspension. With this setup I can almost flat foot when the road is level. When riding solo this setup is good and with the rear shocks adjusted to a softer setting the ride is fine.
However, now that I have had some time getting used to this new and heavier bike, my Lady and I have started to ride 2-up. She is a bit heavier than I am (trying to be kind) and now our combined weight is closer to 360 lbs. Now, even with the rear 11 shocks set to their stiffest setting, Im getting too much tire rub when going over bumps and wallows.
My question is: Is there a way to limit shock travel so I dont get tire rub?
Ive heard of Bump Stops, but dont know how, or if, they would work for this problem.
I have also seen and read many recommendations for Air Shocks that allow for vertical height adjustment on the fly, so to speak. Seems that, when 2-up and having to raise the bike up to allow for more rear shock travel, this might defeat my ability to reach the ground comfortably when coming to stops.
Thanks in advance for any serious advice you may be able to provide.
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Sounds like heavier springs are needed to correct the problem. Never heard of bump stops, but do you really want to be bottoming out your shocks all the time? It can’t be a good ride. You need the right springs for the weight to get a good ride. You might also think about lowering blocks and longer shocks. You could still be lower but have more shock travel.
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Sounds like heavier springs are needed to correct the problem. Never heard of bump stops, but do you really want to be bottoming out your shocks all the time? It cant be a good ride. You need the right springs for the weight to get a good ride. You might also think about lowering blocks and longer shocks. You could still be lower but have more shock travel.
Thanks
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Looks like my first action is to replace the 11" shocks with the stock 12" H-D shocks and see how things work. MIght give Suspension Technologies a call and see if they will swap the springs for me.
In any event, have to do something so I don't have to leave the S.O. at home.
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OK, here is the story. In a few words...the problem was ME!
Just was in the process of getting ready to replace the 11" ST shocks with the 12" OEM shocks. Got as far as getting the rear wheel jacked up off the ground. Decided to see if there was any adjusment left on the ST shocks. Well, to my supprise I wasn't even halfway up on the adjustment. With the load off the shocks the adjustment was far eaiser then when under even just the weight of the bike.
So running it up as stiff as possible, I took it out solo and hardly noticed much difference from when they were adjusted very soft. I'm aware that shorter shocks are inherently stiffer anyway., so there didn't seem to be much difference.
Then we when out 2-up and there was no tire rub, and only when hitting a severe bump there was a slight chirp. That would happen on my Heritage as well so we can live with that and just try to avoid those hard bumps and potholes.
Looking at the setting charts for the OEM 12" shocks, the adjustment was 0 for me alone, and 23 for us 2-up. This kind of told me for us I will have to keep the ST shock fully stiff for 2-up riding and deal with the stiffness when riding solo since making changes to the ST shocks is not as easy as shocks with a **** adjuster.
Looks like to ease the stiffness situation a little, a seat mod by MCC may be in order...cheaper than Air ride.
I think I can say we can put this thread to bed!
Just was in the process of getting ready to replace the 11" ST shocks with the 12" OEM shocks. Got as far as getting the rear wheel jacked up off the ground. Decided to see if there was any adjusment left on the ST shocks. Well, to my supprise I wasn't even halfway up on the adjustment. With the load off the shocks the adjustment was far eaiser then when under even just the weight of the bike.
So running it up as stiff as possible, I took it out solo and hardly noticed much difference from when they were adjusted very soft. I'm aware that shorter shocks are inherently stiffer anyway., so there didn't seem to be much difference.
Then we when out 2-up and there was no tire rub, and only when hitting a severe bump there was a slight chirp. That would happen on my Heritage as well so we can live with that and just try to avoid those hard bumps and potholes.
Looking at the setting charts for the OEM 12" shocks, the adjustment was 0 for me alone, and 23 for us 2-up. This kind of told me for us I will have to keep the ST shock fully stiff for 2-up riding and deal with the stiffness when riding solo since making changes to the ST shocks is not as easy as shocks with a **** adjuster.
Looks like to ease the stiffness situation a little, a seat mod by MCC may be in order...cheaper than Air ride.
I think I can say we can put this thread to bed!
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