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Old 01-14-2013, 03:08 PM
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So Im Nick, Im new to this site, but I dont have any friends here in Reno that can help me out with these problems Im having. I got my first Harley last year, and have been having issues with it. Its an 81 XLH, 1000 cc, with the screamin eagle pipes and S&S super E carb. I had a mechanic do a complete tune up to the bike shortly after buying it, I.E. Oil change, filters changed, plus, new voltage regulator and generator and spark plugs. The bike ran GREAT! However, if i take the bike on a short trip, say up to the grocery store to get something really fast, and come out after letting the bike sit turned off for 5 minutes, it wont start. If the bike sits for extended periods of time, It fires right up. So Im wondering if maybe the spark plugs are getting fuel on them?

I was told that you have to shut the gas off when you turn the bike off or it will flood. So I always do. But it STILL wont start if It ran for 5 minutes, then sits turned off for 5.

I read in a few forums a while back that the S&S carb is too much for this bike. Can someone please give me a little bit of advice as to where I should start, or what they might think it is?

Thanks a bunch guys,

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That bike has solid lifters, and aluminum pushrods.
If your man adjusted those too tight, then they will hold the valve off the seat, so slightly, once warm, causing a compression loss.
Those need to set so they spin very freely, without any up/down lash.
That is where we'd start, if a client came in describing what you have going on.
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Thanks man, thats a huge help for me. I dont think that guy touched any of that, or Im sure I wouldve gotten the bill for it. haha. But i will ask him if he can check those out for me, and explain what youve said, and Im sure hell understand. I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my post.

One more quick question, in regard to the forums I saw about the S&S carb being too much carb for a 1000. Do you think that is true?
 
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In my opinion on a S&S is too big for any sportster much less an iron head unless the engine has been modified. When I service a iron head I always adjust the valves as this is very important! My first Harley was a 1972 XLCH that I bought new in 71.
 
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Thanks Road Captain, I had read that but wasnt sure. So my next question would be, Can I have it jetted? Or should I buy a whole new carb and air filter?
 
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Thanks Road Captain, I had read that but wasnt sure. So my next question would be, Can I have it jetted? Or should I buy a whole new carb and air filter?
I have jetted many a Iron Head and got them to run OK but with a stock or all most stock motor in my opinion they run better with a smaller carburetor. I am not saying you cannot run one but is way too big.
 
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Thanks man, thats a huge help for me. I dont think that guy touched any of that, or Im sure I wouldve gotten the bill for it. haha. But i will ask him if he can check those out for me, and explain what youve said, and Im sure hell understand. I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my post.

One more quick question, in regard to the forums I saw about the S&S carb being too much carb for a 1000. Do you think that is true?
Well, S&S certainly offers those, for that model, and they come out of the box jetted pretty close.
I do not nessesarily believe they are too big, but they capable of supporting a fairly stout engine.
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Ok, so to Road Captain, what carb would you recommend? And to Scott, thanks for the help, would you recommend I try adjusting the stuff you said before and go from there? Or is there a way to have the jets tested so I can see if it needs to be rejetted? And if I have these problems after making the adjustment you mentioned above, would it point to the Carb being too large?
 
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Originally Posted by NickJonesReno
Ok, so to Road Captain, what carb would you recommend? And to Scott, thanks for the help, would you recommend I try adjusting the stuff you said before and go from there? Or is there a way to have the jets tested so I can see if it needs to be rejetted? And if I have these problems after making the adjustment you mentioned above, would it point to the Carb being too large?

Check your valve adjustment first, and if this is a points-triggered ignition(?) your condensor COULD, show similar issues.
How we "test the jets" here in on the Dyno.
Scott
 
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