SE 204 cams in a TC96 - hard to tune?
#1
SE 204 cams in a TC96 - hard to tune?
Hi, looking at bolt in cams for a 96" dyna street bob but I have read that the se 204s are difficult to tune well. Is this true? My tuner is good but he does not specialize in Harley's and has limited experience with the 204 cams.
Are there better cam choices that don't rely so heavily on the skill of the dyno tuner? I'm looking for a good mid range cam that doesn't fall off too early.
Thanks for an advice.
Are there better cam choices that don't rely so heavily on the skill of the dyno tuner? I'm looking for a good mid range cam that doesn't fall off too early.
Thanks for an advice.
#2
The 204 is a pretty straightforward cam but it does have a lot of advance built in which doesn't work well if you are increasing compression as well. I'm not aware of any reason it would be a problem in a 96" compared to an 88", I don't think the extra stroke would make the cam "difficult". It's not likely to drop off too quickly either - especially compared to the standard cams. But I'm not an expert so ....
#3
Hi, looking at bolt in cams for a 96" dyna street bob but I have read that the se 204s are difficult to tune well. Is this true? My tuner is good but he does not specialize in Harley's and has limited experience with the 204 cams.
Are there better cam choices that don't rely so heavily on the skill of the dyno tuner? I'm looking for a good mid range cam that doesn't fall off too early.
Thanks for an advice.
Are there better cam choices that don't rely so heavily on the skill of the dyno tuner? I'm looking for a good mid range cam that doesn't fall off too early.
Thanks for an advice.
Also seek a tuner in your area, that has knowledge on tuning Harleys.
Scott
#4
Scott,you seem to recommend these Woods 222 cams quite frequently.Could you post some dyno sheets so we can see how well these cams perform.Thanks
#5
#6
Thanks for the replies and advice. I hadnt considered the Andrews 48 or the Woods 222 but they look like good options. The only concern I have with these cams is that I like to wind it out and am looking for a cam that doesn't fall off too early. How do these cams perform at the upper rev range?
#7
Thanks for the replies and advice. I hadnt considered the Andrews 48 or the Woods 222 but they look like good options. The only concern I have with these cams is that I like to wind it out and am looking for a cam that doesn't fall off too early. How do these cams perform at the upper rev range?
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#8
+1 I'd like to this this as well. I'm beginning to think there is some sort of hidden (or not so hidden) agenda here.
#9
If you scroll down here: http://fuelmotousa.com/cams.htm, you'll see some 222 numbers, but all with 103's
#10
I have a 204 in my 96 with a few other mods, minor head work, V& H 2:1's, .030 head gasket, nothing serious other than a 51mm throttle body which made a huge diff to the flow. Couple of quick comments..
1) Love the cam. Like you, I'm not a bottom end torque junkie and like to take it through the rev range. It doesn't run out of breath and is strong through to 5500.
2) As the other gent said, it does peak out about 4000, but as he said it falls off gradually. The curve isn't that far off flat.
3) My tuner had no problem dialing it in but he is a Harley and Power Commander guy. Probably wasn't on the dyno 30 minutes, 100 ft/lbs
4) My understanding of the Andrews 48 is that it provides gobs of low end torque and is designed for baggers, at least thats what they told me when I called them. I can't attest to how it pulls through the range.
5) All in all the 204 is just a very streetable general useage cam, IMHO.
Good Luck
1) Love the cam. Like you, I'm not a bottom end torque junkie and like to take it through the rev range. It doesn't run out of breath and is strong through to 5500.
2) As the other gent said, it does peak out about 4000, but as he said it falls off gradually. The curve isn't that far off flat.
3) My tuner had no problem dialing it in but he is a Harley and Power Commander guy. Probably wasn't on the dyno 30 minutes, 100 ft/lbs
4) My understanding of the Andrews 48 is that it provides gobs of low end torque and is designed for baggers, at least thats what they told me when I called them. I can't attest to how it pulls through the range.
5) All in all the 204 is just a very streetable general useage cam, IMHO.
Good Luck