Convert TC103 to carb?
#11
http://www.amm.haan.de/Carb/carb.htm
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#13
And so simple; sometimes simplicity is more important to the end user than having to deal with more complicated and sophisticated systems. There is no arguing that point; it is an individual decision and requires no justification to anyone but the end user.
#14
The reason why i think switching to a carb isnt a bad idea is because i would be working over the engine a lot to make it run good, heads, big bore, cam and the works. So i'd be putting on a bigger throttle body and all i assume, so instead of buying a throttle body and injectors or whatever mumbo jumbo it uses i could just as easy buy a high performance carb ie mikuni or S&S. So its as easy as that.
Also i dont have an EFI bike at the time and its not like im planning to do this swap next weekend. Just wondered what all was involved in it thats all. I am thankful for my Mikuni HSR45 thats on my bike now, cant say enough good things about it. other then its expensive lol
Also i dont have an EFI bike at the time and its not like im planning to do this swap next weekend. Just wondered what all was involved in it thats all. I am thankful for my Mikuni HSR45 thats on my bike now, cant say enough good things about it. other then its expensive lol
#15
Sir I apologize, you are absolutely correct; each of my bikes have a distintive personality -- and carb sound cannot be beat
Better is subjective. Better to some may be the technical advantages offered by an EFI system while better to some may be the simplicity of the naturally aspirated motor; jets and needles vs relying on a third party and a dynomometer.
I would never go to the trouble and expense to convert EFI to carb; just doesn't make sense to me. However, when I bought my second bike, I bought a carbureted model for the simplicity of the carb. I have one of each and like each for what each has to offer.
To debate or argue about something as subjective as why one prefers EFI to carb or visa versa is a waste of time.
I would never go to the trouble and expense to convert EFI to carb; just doesn't make sense to me. However, when I bought my second bike, I bought a carbureted model for the simplicity of the carb. I have one of each and like each for what each has to offer.
To debate or argue about something as subjective as why one prefers EFI to carb or visa versa is a waste of time.
#16
There is a reason why the auto and sportbike industry is able to run 13.5:1 compression na and 12:1 with turbos on pump gas from the factory, and its not because of a carburetor. Direct injection is the next stage of FI. FI allows the engine to be tuned more accurately with higher compression. That equals more power. FI also tends to be slightly less peak power, but it makes more average power. That is do to the carbs narrow ideal power band.
#17
There is a reason why the auto and sportbike industry is able to run 13.5:1 compression na and 12:1 with turbos on pump gas from the factory, and its not because of a carburetor. Direct injection is the next stage of FI. FI allows the engine to be tuned more accurately with higher compression. That equals more power. FI also tends to be slightly less peak power, but it makes more average power. That is do to the carbs narrow ideal power band.
Main thing about EFI is the added cost of tuning and all the sensors and mumbo jumbo. pain in the ***. I guess it has its positive things too, im just old fashioned with a lot of things.
#18
Carb is fine for racing (wide open throttle) EFI shines for rideability and partial throttle where our bikes live on the streets.
#19
Seems like everyone is almost making me wanna know what the process is to change my old bike to EFI lol jk
Main thing about EFI is the added cost of tuning and all the sensors and mumbo jumbo. pain in the ***. I guess it has its positive things too, im just old fashioned with a lot of things.
Main thing about EFI is the added cost of tuning and all the sensors and mumbo jumbo. pain in the ***. I guess it has its positive things too, im just old fashioned with a lot of things.
EFI vehices have an engine management system that also does ignition, so changing a carb bike over to EFI is not straight-forward, but then changing an EFI bike to carb and a separate ignition system isn't either.
The mumbo jumbo is your friend - honest! Learn to love it.....
#20
I feel for you! I am also not far ahead in coming to terms with modern technology. Time was when I could see no point in dynos, but it is my carb bike I have had set up that way.
EFI vehices have an engine management system that also does ignition, so changing a carb bike over to EFI is not straight-forward, but then changing an EFI bike to carb and a separate ignition system isn't either.
The mumbo jumbo is your friend - honest! Learn to love it.....
EFI vehices have an engine management system that also does ignition, so changing a carb bike over to EFI is not straight-forward, but then changing an EFI bike to carb and a separate ignition system isn't either.
The mumbo jumbo is your friend - honest! Learn to love it.....