Disappointed in new cams!
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01-09-2007 | 02:56 PM
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01-09-2007 | 04:22 PM
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RE: Disappointed in new cams!
Well, here I go again, (posted same in Dyna Glide Section)
I am linking you to a series of posts regarding my Andrews TW37G cams install.
I went from an out of breath 60 horse engine to a 79.66 horse screamer due to my new cams. This motor does not stop making power and is only hauled back by the rev limiter. A smile a minute since cam install.
https://www.hdforums.com/m_1136516/tm.htm
Who installed the cams? Possibly timing off on cam install? Did they really put new cams in????
I am linking you to a series of posts regarding my Andrews TW37G cams install.
I went from an out of breath 60 horse engine to a 79.66 horse screamer due to my new cams. This motor does not stop making power and is only hauled back by the rev limiter. A smile a minute since cam install.
https://www.hdforums.com/m_1136516/tm.htm
Who installed the cams? Possibly timing off on cam install? Did they really put new cams in????
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01-09-2007 | 08:15 PM
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01-09-2007 | 09:57 PM
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RE: Disappointed in new cams!
Sorry to say, I have heard a lot of Theory on certain cams, need higher compression, need at least 95 C.I. upgrade, needs head work to perform,only a high rpm cam, etc.
What I have mentioned, and shown, in my posts are the Actual, net results of a real world install of a set of TW37G's on a stock 88 C.I. mill. Except for the pipes and SE1 AC, and dynojetted carb, my bike motor is bone stock. All I added were the S&S cam gear drive and Andrews TW 37G cams.
No theory can dispute 80 ft/lb's of torque from 3,000 to 5,000 RPM, with a max of 88.49 ft/lb'sat 3,500 RPM. With my CV again re-jetted, I am now over 80 HP also.
Fact over theory, I rest my case.
[IMG]local://upfiles/20717/8E16D261015F45A9AF3465E903F5A026.jpg[/IMG]
What I have mentioned, and shown, in my posts are the Actual, net results of a real world install of a set of TW37G's on a stock 88 C.I. mill. Except for the pipes and SE1 AC, and dynojetted carb, my bike motor is bone stock. All I added were the S&S cam gear drive and Andrews TW 37G cams.
No theory can dispute 80 ft/lb's of torque from 3,000 to 5,000 RPM, with a max of 88.49 ft/lb'sat 3,500 RPM. With my CV again re-jetted, I am now over 80 HP also.
Fact over theory, I rest my case.
[IMG]local://upfiles/20717/8E16D261015F45A9AF3465E903F5A026.jpg[/IMG]
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01-09-2007 | 11:27 PM
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RE: Disappointed in new cams!
ORIGINAL: ButtMan1000
Sorry to say, I have heard a lot of Theory on certain cams, need higher compression, need at least 95 C.I. upgrade, needs head work to perform,only a high rpm cam, etc.
What I have mentioned, and shown, in my posts are the Actual, net results of a real world install of a set of TW37G's on a stock 88 C.I. mill. Except for the pipes and SE1 AC, and dynojetted carb, my bike motor is bone stock. All I added were the S&S cam gear drive and Andrews TW 37G cams.
No theory can dispute 80 ft/lb's of torque from 3,000 to 5,000 RPM, with a max of 88.49 ft/lb'sat 3,500 RPM. With my CV again re-jetted, I am now over 80 HP also.
Fact over theory, I rest my case.
[IMG]local://upfiles/20717/8E16D261015F45A9AF3465E903F5A026.jpg[/IMG]
Sorry to say, I have heard a lot of Theory on certain cams, need higher compression, need at least 95 C.I. upgrade, needs head work to perform,only a high rpm cam, etc.
What I have mentioned, and shown, in my posts are the Actual, net results of a real world install of a set of TW37G's on a stock 88 C.I. mill. Except for the pipes and SE1 AC, and dynojetted carb, my bike motor is bone stock. All I added were the S&S cam gear drive and Andrews TW 37G cams.
No theory can dispute 80 ft/lb's of torque from 3,000 to 5,000 RPM, with a max of 88.49 ft/lb'sat 3,500 RPM. With my CV again re-jetted, I am now over 80 HP also.
Fact over theory, I rest my case.
[IMG]local://upfiles/20717/8E16D261015F45A9AF3465E903F5A026.jpg[/IMG]
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01-09-2007 | 11:58 PM
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RE: Disappointed in new cams!
ORIGINAL: YankeeBob
I didn't say you wouln't realize a modest gain in performance. Your dyno shows that! My point is simply that that cam would benefit from headwork and proper CR. Imagine what your dyno would look like if you did!
ORIGINAL: ButtMan1000
Sorry to say, I have heard a lot of Theory on certain cams, need higher compression, need at least 95 C.I. upgrade, needs head work to perform,only a high rpm cam, etc.
What I have mentioned, and shown, in my posts are the Actual, net results of a real world install of a set of TW37G's on a stock 88 C.I. mill. Except for the pipes and SE1 AC, and dynojetted carb, my bike motor is bone stock. All I added were the S&S cam gear drive and Andrews TW 37G cams.
No theory can dispute 80 ft/lb's of torque from 3,000 to 5,000 RPM, with a max of 88.49 ft/lb'sat 3,500 RPM. With my CV again re-jetted, I am now over 80 HP also.
Fact over theory, I rest my case.
[IMG]local://upfiles/20717/8E16D261015F45A9AF3465E903F5A026.jpg[/IMG]
Sorry to say, I have heard a lot of Theory on certain cams, need higher compression, need at least 95 C.I. upgrade, needs head work to perform,only a high rpm cam, etc.
What I have mentioned, and shown, in my posts are the Actual, net results of a real world install of a set of TW37G's on a stock 88 C.I. mill. Except for the pipes and SE1 AC, and dynojetted carb, my bike motor is bone stock. All I added were the S&S cam gear drive and Andrews TW 37G cams.
No theory can dispute 80 ft/lb's of torque from 3,000 to 5,000 RPM, with a max of 88.49 ft/lb'sat 3,500 RPM. With my CV again re-jetted, I am now over 80 HP also.
Fact over theory, I rest my case.
[IMG]local://upfiles/20717/8E16D261015F45A9AF3465E903F5A026.jpg[/IMG]
This beast should be easily in the 100/100 club with 98 C.I. and heads and compression increase!!
But as I am riding the bike like a wild man now, I will definitly be in trouble with a 100/100. Believe me, I have used up 8 of my 9 lives already.
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01-10-2007 | 12:42 AM
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RE: Disappointed in new cams!
Here's what they do in a 95", @ 9.7:1, with mild head work. It ran fine on 93 octane, but in a Bagger, on avg fuel..... ping ping ping.
Perhaps even less timing might have helped, but I've moved on to something different (HQ-0039) and they much better and no pinging.
[IMG]local://upfiles/8665/C8EDA17BA34C4B6093D5717604D81164.jpg[/IMG]
Perhaps even less timing might have helped, but I've moved on to something different (HQ-0039) and they much better and no pinging.
[IMG]local://upfiles/8665/C8EDA17BA34C4B6093D5717604D81164.jpg[/IMG]
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RE: Disappointed in new cams!
ORIGINAL: trigger1911
Thanks everyone for your replies. The most power i have gained was just simply adding a Hypercharger, rejet and 2 into 1 exhaust with little restriction. That made a HUGE difference over stock. I will have the heads done next and keep you updated. THANX!
Thanks everyone for your replies. The most power i have gained was just simply adding a Hypercharger, rejet and 2 into 1 exhaust with little restriction. That made a HUGE difference over stock. I will have the heads done next and keep you updated. THANX!
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02-22-2007 | 07:21 PM
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RE: Disappointed in new cams!
hey all
i'm new here. been reading all day. geting ready to do an upgrade soon, butr wanted to add that all the replies talk about the tw37g cams, this guy had the tw37a cams put in, chain drive. is there a big difference in power made between these two cams?
michael
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se ign mod, hsr42 carb, se a/c, v&h strait shots
wide glide conv kit, 16"fr wheel and tire, fat boy fenders
i'm new here. been reading all day. geting ready to do an upgrade soon, butr wanted to add that all the replies talk about the tw37g cams, this guy had the tw37a cams put in, chain drive. is there a big difference in power made between these two cams?
michael
2001 fxdp
se ign mod, hsr42 carb, se a/c, v&h strait shots
wide glide conv kit, 16"fr wheel and tire, fat boy fenders