Air intakes... How to decide
#1
Air intakes... How to decide
There are, as we all know, a plethera of air intake systems out there. K&N, V&H, and many others. H-D freely admits that their performance filters are K&N. I have to wonder if V&H, and others, also simply have the K&N filters relabled for their use.
I am guessing that if H-D sells the K&N units they must be okay. But, I may be making a poor decision based on hype.
How does one determine which one best meets his/her needs, wants, and desires?
How does one determine the one with the best airflow without sacrificing necessary filtration needs and, at the same time, the best filtration capabilities without sacrificing airflow?
In the construction industry we talk about CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute) air flow for exhaust systems. Is this the same thing air filtration systems are rated by? Or, is there something else?
I am guessing that if H-D sells the K&N units they must be okay. But, I may be making a poor decision based on hype.
How does one determine which one best meets his/her needs, wants, and desires?
How does one determine the one with the best airflow without sacrificing necessary filtration needs and, at the same time, the best filtration capabilities without sacrificing airflow?
In the construction industry we talk about CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute) air flow for exhaust systems. Is this the same thing air filtration systems are rated by? Or, is there something else?
Last edited by Matt0987; 06-16-2011 at 01:06 AM.
#2
The highest flowing, K&N-equippped units would be a Dorherty Machine backing plate, with a Bob Wood 325 cfm air cleaner element.
That requires an 8" round Evo cover.
No brag, but our proprietary 3.5" element on the Dorherty plate, is a close # 2, and fits under the OE football cover.
Scott
That requires an 8" round Evo cover.
No brag, but our proprietary 3.5" element on the Dorherty plate, is a close # 2, and fits under the OE football cover.
Scott
#3
The highest flowing, K&N-equippped units would be a Dorherty Machine backing plate, with a Bob Wood 325 cfm air cleaner element.
That requires an 8" round Evo cover.
No brag, but our proprietary 3.5" element on the Dorherty plate, is a close # 2, and fits under the OE football cover.
Scott
That requires an 8" round Evo cover.
No brag, but our proprietary 3.5" element on the Dorherty plate, is a close # 2, and fits under the OE football cover.
Scott
A K&N unit is a filter element. So would not using a Bob Wood 325 mean you are not using a K&N? That you have moved away from K&N? And a DM backing plate? What is that? Do you have a link where I can go and learn of these?
And, not trying to be flippant here but, I could just take off all filteration and have great flow. So, how do I know I am getting the protection needed as well as the high flow?
5, 10, 15 micron???
And, I do not know the specs but, will my 103ci drink 325 cfm? Or, is 325 cfm beyond the 103's maximum capacity and therefore overkill?
Last edited by Matt0987; 06-16-2011 at 09:28 AM.
#4
I am not sure I understand your statement... And I will probably be showing my ignorance about these things here... But
A K&N unit is a filter element. So would not using a Bob Wood 325 mean you are not using a K&N? That you have moved away from K&N? And a DM backing plate? What is that? Do you have a link where I can go and learn of these?
And, not trying to be flippant here but, I could just take off all filteration and have great flow. So, how do I know I am getting the protection needed as well as the high flow?
5, 10, 15 micron???
A K&N unit is a filter element. So would not using a Bob Wood 325 mean you are not using a K&N? That you have moved away from K&N? And a DM backing plate? What is that? Do you have a link where I can go and learn of these?
And, not trying to be flippant here but, I could just take off all filteration and have great flow. So, how do I know I am getting the protection needed as well as the high flow?
5, 10, 15 micron???
A filter that flows 325cfm isn't necessary if the engine requirement is 270cfm, is it?
The backing plate is the plate that attaches to the throttle body and crankcase breathers, behind the air filter. Some plates, like the Doherty that Scott mentioned have modified the air intake to enhance air flow.
Most aftermarket filters are made by K&N; stick with K&N reuseable and you will be fine and don't worry about air flow until you start to modify the motor.
Last edited by djl; 06-16-2011 at 09:32 AM.
#5
I've been wondering the same thing. I am planning a stage 1 upgrade for my bike and have narrowed down the intakes to:
Kuryakyn Hi-Five Mach 2
V&H VO2
Arlen Ness Big Sucker
I am looking to get the best performance for my buck and I'm having a hard time making heads or tails for the performance differences between these units.
Kuryakyn Hi-Five Mach 2
V&H VO2
Arlen Ness Big Sucker
I am looking to get the best performance for my buck and I'm having a hard time making heads or tails for the performance differences between these units.
#6
#7
I've been wondering the same thing. I am planning a stage 1 upgrade for my bike and have narrowed down the intakes to:
Kuryakyn Hi-Five Mach 2
V&H VO2
Arlen Ness Big Sucker
I am looking to get the best performance for my buck and I'm having a hard time making heads or tails for the performance differences between these units.
Kuryakyn Hi-Five Mach 2
V&H VO2
Arlen Ness Big Sucker
I am looking to get the best performance for my buck and I'm having a hard time making heads or tails for the performance differences between these units.
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#8
Thanks djl, that's what I wanted to know. As for the oil blowback, is that something that's common in aftermarket units or specific to the units I listed?
#9
I couldn't figure it out either - so I just went with an Alen Ness Double Barrel, because I thought it will look good with V&H Black 2-1 radius. It clearly has more service area and larger opening then OEM. How much more is really necessary - who knows, probably less than you think. I would think with EFI, they should be able to control air-fuel mixture independently of total air-fuel volume. So I've been assuming air intake volume is less of an issue as compared to a carb fed engine. Would love to be schooled on this; otherwise, I never let the facts get in the way of a good story! Cheers, Kevin.
#10
Check out the Doherty stuff; it will give you some ideas.
http://dohertymachine.com/index.php?...377bf7aa5639bc
The Myst Free breathers will reduce the amount of oil mist that can be passed back to the air intake but the vapor will pass back unless vented to the atmosphere.
http://dohertymachine.com/index.php?...377bf7aa5639bc
Last edited by djl; 06-16-2011 at 02:12 PM.
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