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Old 02-07-2011, 07:57 AM
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N-grin ...not apposed to a cam change since I need to address the tensioners.What cam would you recommend?I talked to t-man he said his 525/590...Bob wood his tw7h6r with his tensioner upgrade and Hillside said a tw5-6 or or the 6-6...Deweys said he likes the andrews tw37 or the 54......what do you do????????
You could close your eyes and touch the screen, or ask your wife which one she likes the sound of most - or ask HER to close her eyes and....! The advice is from sound sources, so you can't go far wrong.
 
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I am partial to the Andrews cam family and you cannot go wrong with the 37. TMan's 525 is a good cam as well. Both require headwork to optimize. Best advice if you are having headwork done is to select a head porter and work the cam choice out with him based on your requirements.

I have alwasy been of the opinion that the HQ cams work best with an HQ package which includes their heads/headwork. So that would be another option, go back to HQ for headwork to match up to the HQ cams.
 
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Looked at wood tw7h6r with his tensioner upgrade close to the 37 or 54...talked to dorfman and he likes the 37.....gotta figure this out soon.T-man 525/590 looks good also but he is spendy.
 
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Originally Posted by 2D3K1H1B1HIM
Looked at wood tw7h6r with his tensioner upgrade close to the 37 or 54...talked to dorfman and he likes the 37.....gotta figure this out soon.T-man 525/590 looks good also but he is spendy.
I have done business with Dorfman. Don is very knowledgeable and will give you plenty of time before, during and after the build. I am working with him now to work through some issues on one of my builds; a 107". Don has a "blue print" package for budget builders; give Don some seriouis consideration; he is a great guy to work with and you will get more for you $$. The Woods cams tend to be noisy; Andrews are about as quiet at they get. As I said before, you can't go wrong with the 37. I recently worked with a buddy building a 95". We used OEM '06 heads, out of the box except for competition valve job, new guide seals and decking for compression with the 37 cams in an '04 Deuce with less than optimal pipes, Rinehart Crossbacks. The build made 107TQ/100HP with a nice flat curve. Add some headwork and decent pipes and you are looking at 110TQ/103HP; not to shabby for a 95"er.
 

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Yea Don is one of those guys that has to get down to my level so I can understand what he is talking about.Spent about 15/20 min on the phone with him...sounds like he knows his S==t.Said he can do a basic blueprint of the heads,match it to the 37.He also suggested the full head port job for around 700/800.
 
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Certainly don't shortchange the Wood 6.
Set at 10.25, with a head that rolls 155 @ 10" cfm at peak, and starts grabbing even at .100" lift, you'd be hard pressed to have more, with a low-lift cam.
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I am partial to the Andrews cam family and you cannot go wrong with the 37. TMan's 525 is a good cam as well. Both require headwork to optimize. Best advice if you are having headwork done is to select a head porter and work the cam choice out with him based on your requirements.

I have alwasy been of the opinion that the HQ cams work best with an HQ package which includes their heads/headwork. So that would be another option, go back to HQ for headwork to match up to the HQ cams.
i had that feeling about there parts too, but i think its mostly hype, and not understanding there build philosophy in general. with isnt much different that most builders. (they just anrnt all hung up on HP numbers mainly).

I called another reputable builder on the east coast recently about using there cams. with HQ stuff, or going with here heads instead, in a nutshell, they told me they didnt give an F either way, just as long as there was enough valve spring clearance to not coil bind.

I was like huh?? Ok, whatever.

decided to just keep my cams with my 103 build.
 
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i had that feeling about there parts too, but i think its mostly hype, and not understanding there build philosophy in general. with isnt much different that most builders. (they just anrnt all hung up on HP numbers mainly).

I called another reputable builder on the east coast recently about using there cams. with HQ stuff, or going with here heads instead, in a nutshell, they told me they didnt give an F either way, just as long as there was enough valve spring clearance to not coil bind.

I was like huh?? Ok, whatever.

decided to just keep my cams with my 103 build.
Hype? Maybe but when I was planning my last 107" build, I considered HQ stuff but when I talked to them I was told that the only way to get the numbers they published for their packages was to go with the whole package; sort of like telling you either buy the whoel enchilada or pass. Not saying bad advice, just saying that if you like to experiment and I do, you don't want to lock yourself into a build formula. Makes you wonder what you would give up if you pulled their cams for another. Then there is the limited choices available for cam selection to work with the HQ headwork; it does make a difference.
I have seen some 95" builds with Kuryakyn cams that made 120TQ/115HP; heads by Bob Wright. The same cams, same build with another porters heads will not produce those results.

Anyway, I opted to put together my own packcage and have changed cams three times with some suttle differences; I was happy with all three.
 
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Don't get me wrong bob wood said to use the new tw7h6r cam and his tensioners upgrade,ran that by Dorfman and he said he was not familiar with that perticular cam but has used wood cams and had great results.Then he mentioned the 37.
 
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An Andrews 37 is a good cam no doubt.
Doc's Performance Tuning, in Mineola, Fla, just finalized one of our 98"ers, set at 9.9 cr, with a 37, our Stage II Head, D&D Fatcat. 106/111.
The 37 is the T/C version, of their famous Evo 27 cam.
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