What is the ideal static and corrected CR's for the 54H cams in a 106" build?
#11
I had my heads set at 86cc. I use a .040 head gasket. I get mid 180s ccp. BigBoyz says
it would be 185ccp. Only thing is my deck height came to .003 out of the hole.
I HAVE a 106 with andrews 54 build and really like it.
When apart... if the pistons are a teeny bit in the hole... run .030 headgaskets. If a teeny bit out of the hole... run .040 headgaskets.
You will be fine and you have enough compression for this set up.
it would be 185ccp. Only thing is my deck height came to .003 out of the hole.
I HAVE a 106 with andrews 54 build and really like it.
When apart... if the pistons are a teeny bit in the hole... run .030 headgaskets. If a teeny bit out of the hole... run .040 headgaskets.
You will be fine and you have enough compression for this set up.
#12
here are to of my bikes with the 54h cam.the blue line is the cam,se air cleaner,d&d 2 into 1 pipe,hd 103 kit,and 16952-08 mcr se heads,stock head gasket.red line iscam,se air cleaner,new vh pro pipe chrome,s&s 106,stock heads,stock head gasket.so,do you need head work or heads?depends on how you ride.the chart speaks for its self.personally i have a set of mcr heads on order.
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#15
I do have porting, and larger intakes. But feel that stock unmolested 06+ heads would do really well, too.
Last edited by wurk_truk; 12-11-2010 at 11:10 PM.
#16
I do have porting, and larger intakes. But feel that stock unmolested 06+ heads would do really well, too.
IME the differance is the torque curve will be extended on the right and not fall until ~500 rpm later and the hp will rise 5-7. Torque will peak slightly higher and low end off idle to 3k will remain the same assuming the compression is left equal. At this point with a 106-107 the TB is just starting to become the constraint.
IME the differance is the torque curve will be extended on the right and not fall until ~500 rpm later and the hp will rise 5-7. Torque will peak slightly higher and low end off idle to 3k will remain the same assuming the compression is left equal. At this point with a 106-107 the TB is just starting to become the constraint.
#17
Thanks Don, thats great. By Zero headwork, does that include cc'ing the heads??? Or do you mean literally no headwork, like just bolting them back on with a .030 hg.....
Last edited by nosillyname; 12-12-2010 at 05:37 PM.
#18
I do have porting, and larger intakes. But feel that stock unmolested 06+ heads would do really well, too.
IME the differance is the torque curve will be extended on the right and not fall until ~500 rpm later and the hp will rise 5-7. Torque will peak slightly higher and low end off idle to 3k will remain the same assuming the compression is left equal. At this point with a 106-107 the TB is just starting to become the constraint.
IME the differance is the torque curve will be extended on the right and not fall until ~500 rpm later and the hp will rise 5-7. Torque will peak slightly higher and low end off idle to 3k will remain the same assuming the compression is left equal. At this point with a 106-107 the TB is just starting to become the constraint.
Thanks.
Last edited by nosillyname; 12-12-2010 at 05:38 PM.
#19
IMHO... a larger TB would impact low speed (under 3500) operation.
More to the point is this IS a great combo, but the exhaust will play a MAJOR role in making this all come together. I have 117 tq, and it crosses 100 at 2200rpm. But a different exhaust could change that entirely. Tune is important too.
More to the point is this IS a great combo, but the exhaust will play a MAJOR role in making this all come together. I have 117 tq, and it crosses 100 at 2200rpm. But a different exhaust could change that entirely. Tune is important too.
#20
The 106 will be right at the spot where with flatops and that cam the CR will be close to optimized. CCing the heads would be smart to get them equalized but that can be done without milling assuming they are close, or mill one slightly to bring them to equal, depends on the volume they measure what to do.
If doing headwork sure go for the 1.9" valve and don't scrimp there. The HP I mention will not come without added airflow potential (verified by flow testing on a bench) and the valves help that but I use a stock exhaust size both are premium AV&V parts.
The TB will not be of any help without the headwork. These parts work together and always the assumption is the pipe and tune are good.
If doing headwork sure go for the 1.9" valve and don't scrimp there. The HP I mention will not come without added airflow potential (verified by flow testing on a bench) and the valves help that but I use a stock exhaust size both are premium AV&V parts.
The TB will not be of any help without the headwork. These parts work together and always the assumption is the pipe and tune are good.